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Occultium

Jul 3, 06 - 5:21 AM

Most Haunted caught faking activity live on Camera!!!

Anyone still undecided about the authenticity of the UK's popular Living TV "ghost investigation" show should get ready to be convinced of its fraudulent activity.

Derek Acorah was caught faking names of supposed spirits in locations on more than one occasion, when other team members tricked Mr Acorah into using anagrams of fictional historic people that he then used on the TV show, while supposedly communicating with the spirits of the dead, and even calming to be possessed by the made up fictional characters used to trick Acorah into exposing his fraudulent mediumship abilities.

The two most famous anagrams used to trick Mr Acorah where Rik Eedles that translates to Derek Lies, and Kreed Kafer that also translates to Derek Faker, one would think that this would be enough to convince most if not all people of Derek Acorah’s true authenticity, but unbelievably people still refused to believe that Mr Acorah was a fraud, refusing to accept the evidence, and continuing on with the blind faith that is normally only seen in religious cults.

The Show Most Haunted soon distanced them selves from the supposed medium Derek Acorah soon after the fraudulent activity was made public, but since some new footage has come to light of more undisputable fraud on the show, this time not from one of the shows mediums, but from the shows presenter Yvette Fielding, who has on a number of occasions along with other members of the Most Haunted team stressed that she or the show does not fake things, or do anything like that.

The footage shows Yvette making a breathing noise when the camera starts to pan around, then someone saying “what’s that noise“, then Yvette says "what noise? Like a moan?"

The look on Yvette’s face when she realises the camera had not panned away says it all. And the excuse can not be used that she was breathing in reaction to a noise, because when the guy says "What is that noise?" she says "What noise?"

See the footage here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlvphVWskOg&eurl=

Here is more footage of suspicious activity where Yvette is caught pushing the glass in a Ouija experiment.

Glass pushing footage HERE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGzoVkbNsH8&eurl=

Dave@Cosmic Conspiracies

Jul 5th, 2006 - 4:29 AM

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This is old news. We knew about this footage over a year ago. However, Derek Acorah does seem to come up with accurate information.

All three of the writers for this website went to see Derek in Cheltenham around 18 months ago. It just so happened that a friend of Andies was in the audience too and she was picked out for a reading. Acorah told her of the new kitchen that she had just had fitted and other personal information that could not have been done through cold reading techniques.

I wouldnt take what happens on Most Haunted as evidence of what true spiritual mediums can do. A lot of it is for shock factor only. For instance when Acorah was possessed - that is simply theatrics for viewer ratings. However, Martin (a researcher for this site) is a practicing medium and on many occasions comes up with the names that the mediums on MH uncover - even before they say them.

I would also like to address your comment in the guestbook about how we write that the alien autopsy footage is real. We say nothing of the sort, so you should go back and read what we actually write before making a criticism. How you came to that conclusion is hard to understand, especially as there is an editors comment at the bottom of the page and also a section about how one of the special effects people from 'Max Headroom' admitted to the fake.

Only this week on 'Richard and Judy' did Santilli say that the footage was only 5% genuine with the other 95% made up as a reproduction of the events that happened on the original tape in his possession that was too inferior and delicate to do anything with.

Occultism

Jul 7th, 2006 - 6:21 AM

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I will try and put this in as gentle a way as possible, as I don’t want to offend you, I don’t mean any disrespect, they are only my opinions on how I see things, so sorry in advance if that is the case.

I have been studying the paranormal for nearly 20 years now, and I hope for many more. I have seen the paranormals reputation take a huge nose dive over the last 5 years, because of people like Derek Acorah and the fraudulent shows like Most Haunted. Yes its brought more people to the paranormal, but that has caused it to be a circus. And cause people to run around the UK chasing dust moisture and insects, getting cemeteries and other haunted places closed of to the public, because of there gullibility and lack of knowledge of these things.

Now you say Derek has gotten something’s correct that no one could know, well he has also been caught cheating on a number on occasions, doesn’t that as a serious paranormal investigator looking for answers offend you? Don’t you care that he has damaged the reputation of other people involved with the paranormal?

When people find out I investigate the paranormal I am instantly told "DO you like that Most Haunted or Acorah guy" because I am automatically lumped in with these frauds.

As someone that is interested in the paranormal you should know there is NO room for fraud when it comes to the paranormal, as people are sceptical of it as it is. Anyone caught defrauding should be shunted by any genuine and honest investigator. How can anyone have faith in someone who has been caught cheating? There is no room for error in this game let alone lies. Its just an accuse to say "Oh well its just showmanship for ratings, and its all entertainment" this would all be well and fine if Most Haunted and Derek Acorah said outright we are fake and are only acting to bring entertainment, but they don’t, they portray them selves as serious and honest investigators, sure sometimes they have warnings at the start of some paranormal shows, that its only entrainment, but that’s only because the law permits them too do so.

May I ask you respectfully if you have seen this footage years ago of Most haunted and Derek Acorah, why do you have them on your site? Fair enough have them on your site, but tell the truth about who and what they are, as this just adds to the miss information being put out about them, and people will continued to be conned by them. Its your responsibility to put out the truth no matter how uncomfortable the truth is.

I don’t like to poo poo on anyone’s beliefs, but I know many people that have been banned from the Derek Acorah web site for nothing more then questioning him, there have been thousands that have been banned for reasons so pathetic I can hardly believe it, the site is full of Acorah extremists that are hateful and bitter to anyone that has an alternative view, its cause Derek him self a huge reputation plummet, his fanatical fans are similar to the religious fundamentalists. And his show “Ghost Towns” is so embarrassing I can hardly bring my self to watch it without looking away and cringing.

I personally know quite a few people who have seen Mr Acorah live, and all of them went with an open minded, now they all came back with a different opinion on him, they said he was not like they saw him on TV, he was aggressive and rude to people who did not understand what he was talking about, I don’t know perhaps they where all just unlucky?

Anyone seriously interested in the paranormal should not be promoting something that has damaged its reputation so much, because believe me Most Haunted and Derek Acorah have made it a laughing stock to a majority of the public.

I do apologize on the Alien autopsy thing, as you did say it was admitted to be a fake, I read that a while ago and only scanned over it the other day.

On the 5 % is real thing, well that would mean that the special effects team must have got the fake alien pretty much spot on with the "real alien" which would be pretty much impossible, because even a brilliant fake of a real alien, and then when the two films are compared your going to be able to see the differences, no differences have been found on that footage. I believe he said the 5 % thing because he wants to keep apart of the myth alive as he’s not ready to let go of it completely.

Now I know you have admitted you don’t take Most Haunted or Acorah as real evidence of spiritual activity (or least that what I thought you meant on Most Haunted anyway), but by using articles that hide the truth about them, in my opinion your just contributing to the avoiding of the truth and causing others to miss the fact they are all frauds.

Also things like Most Haunted and people like Acorah have fuelled the narrow minded sceptics fire, and caused them to do there own damage to the paranormal by using Derek’s fakeness and Most Haunted fraud as there own propaganda and weapons, doesn’t that bothe

Occultism

Jul 7th, 2006 - 6:28 AM

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doesn’t that bother you? Let me ask you this, if you do paranormal investigation and you found out one of your team was openly using fraud to produce so called paranormal activities would you continue to allow them as a member of your team?

Take care.

Dave@Cosmic Conspiracies

Jul 8th, 2006 - 3:03 AM

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Hi Occultism,

Thanks for replying. I have seen footage where Yvette and the team come up with some information and then say 'Lets see what the historians in the studio think because I am hearing that they are very excited with the evidence that we are talking about'. The camera switches to the studio where David Bull (the compare) is stood reading notes and one of the historians is reading a book. Which means that particular segments of the 'live' show is actually pre-recorded for broadcast which would go out later that evening. I have also seen footage of Yvette making groaning noises and somebody saying 'did you hear that noise', to which she answers 'was it like a groan?'. She then realises that the camera was directly on her when she made the noise.

However, there are a couple of things that intrigue me. Number one is that Cairen O'Keefe came forward to expose the show as fake to The Mirror newspaper last year. If a part of your crew rumbled that your show was a fake, wouldn't he be shown the door straight away?

What Im trying to say is that I find it strange that O'Keefe kept his job and Acorah left? As I said in my earlier post, I believe that a lot of pressure was placed on Derek to 'come up with the goods' to make a watchable program. As a fellow investigator I'm sure you'll agree that ghost sightings and paranormal activity on an average ghost investigation do not happen as frequent or as dramatically as shown on MH.

I do not rely on conjecture, only what I can verify and that is why we include the review of Derek Acorah live at Cheltenham and report that we think he was very accurate.

The big problem is that Most Haunted take too many people with them on investigations. They usually have a crew of 15+ which is ridiculous. At least with Ghost Towns there is only a handful of them.

What you also have to remember is that Derek must have been pretty accurate before his fame to actually be recognised as a good medium. He worked in the States before gaining fame over here on shows with the International Society for Paranormal Research (ISPR).

You may have a hard time believing the table tipping and ouija board episodes, but my brother, a practicing spiritualist medium is now part of a closed circle at the local church. Just last week they tried table tipping for the second time. My brother asked 'isnt this table a little bit heavy?' to which the head medium replied 'oh no, we always use this table and have on occasions had it travel up the wall or levitate!'.

Im not sure where you got the information about people being banned from asking questions on Dereks website as his site does not feature a forum? Perhaps you meant the Living TV/Most Haunted forum? I am a member of that and it is hard to write most things on there because it is censored. Even the mention of this website so that members can see the rods footage from the recent MHL was removed.

To prove that Derek is a fraud I would need to see some type of film evidence that should be available? I have seen countless pieces of footage with Yvette, Karl and Stuart faking things but nothing with Derek?

Have you ever put the shoe on the other foot and thought that perhaps Derek rumbled the show and didnt like the way that they were faking things and this 'Derek is fake' statement by O'Keefe was a way of getting him off the show? I think that Derek was actually leaving the show before the statement came out anyway and perhaps Yvette and the team were a little ****** off because he was so popular and the reason why so many people tuned into the show. They more than likely thought that if he wasnt working fo r them then they would make his career suffer as a consequence. Perhaps Yvette and the team had a fall out with him and did this 'expose' in a bid to give him a bad name? Has anyone come forward claiming that he is faking his tour shows? I dont think so.

Obviously the possession episodes are acted up for effect, but he comes up with some very specific information, one which springs to mind is the body of a dead bird which was hidden in a fireplace at a pub. The owners didnt remember the event until Derek came up with the information.

Ghost Towns seems a better program than MH to me personally. How could he know the history of a person that he basically just knocks the door of in the middle of the night?

Occultism

Jul 8th, 2006 - 7:04 AM

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Hi again

You seem to be one of the people who took the Most Haunted side, or an Acorah side. I my self can see they are both frauds, responsible for making the paranormal look laughable. I used to like Most Haunted when it first started, I used to also give Derek the benefit of the doubt for a long while, but there comes a point when so much evidence comes forward you cant gloss it over any longer. I hope one day you reach that level of realisation.

I am in no way a sceptic when it comes to the paranormal, I believe in God (although don’t follow a religion) The after life, Ghosts, UFO,s, Angels, Witchcraft and the occult, Mediumship ect. I just recognize that there is fraud all around in this game. I have written for magazines and news papers on the paranormal and spirituality, I attend investigations and have been studying the paranormal for 20 years, so I am what many would call eccentric. But when something is obvious, you just have to swallow that bitter pill, you feel a lot better after doing so.

Personally I believe you don’t want to believe what I said about Acorah, because you have met him, and he is a pleasant and nice man (which I don’t dispute) but nice people lie, it’s a fact of life.

You also say you want video evidence, well he said the Anagrams on video more than once, even becoming possessed by one of the made up characters, in exactly the same manner as he did when supposedly "really possessed".

You obviously were not a member of Derek's old forum I take it? I know over a 100 people just from talking online who where banned, God knows how many more there where. Because if you don’t know what I am talking about you must not have been there. The old forum was closed down because of the webmaster and her power trips and ego, she banned thousands of people for reasons that almost defy logic, there is now a new forum with a new webmaster thank god. You know the problem got so bad some people made T-Shirts “I got banned from the Derek Acorah web site” they sold them all. Some of the people on that forum called them selves the “Acorah Angels” and believed they were prophets for there Idol Derek Acorah, it was embarrassing. I even saw some people compare him to Jesus.

Occultism

Jul 8th, 2006 - 7:05 AM

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And as for “Derek just exposing Most Haunted” How come he said the following? …………

“I’d just like to say on virtually all psychic activity, I rely on my spiritualist guide I call Sam, but sometimes I rely heavily on my own spiritual guilds that are a custom to my surroundings and the atmosphere that I am upon. When I get possessed, I cannot remember any of the actions of who has taken over me or that of my surroundings. On this occasion where the spirit Kreed Kafer came to me, I can say that I had, yes had been taken over by an entity, but the identity would have been other than that of the name that came from me. One explanation of what could have occurred is that the spirit that took on board myself had heard one of the crew members mention the character Kreed Kafer and this individual took on that name by means of fraud or because many people in the very distant past did not have names so this entity decided to use the one he had overheard. Another explanation is that I did hear in passing the name Kreed Kafer, and when I did take on board the spirit I made a genuine mistake and wrongly associated this name with the spirit. I am human and can make mistakes, especially when I am under the pressure of a reading or being taken over by an overbearing entity. I do however have a strong successful following in the spiritualist field and I do believe that I am a genuine medium. I am sorry if any of my lovely fans were offended by this mistake.” - Derek Acorah

http://www.ghosts-uk.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=825

If he was just “exposing Most Haunted” why has he openly admitted another explanation, being the one above? He never said him self that he did it to expose Most Haunted, so how could your theory be correct?.

I think its possible he has some mediumship ability, but he has faked things, and been caught with his hands in the cookie jar, I can not as a serious paranormal investigator try and justify his fraudulent actions, he has damaged the paranormal and hindered future research, and so has Most Haunted.

Also you never answered my questions - If one of your team members on an investigation where found to be using fraud, would you allowed them to continue on with your team?

Dave@Cosmic Conspiracies

Jul 9th, 2006 - 4:24 AM

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Im sure that you can tell that I can fully well see that most of the events on Most Haunted are staged. I think Ive made myself clear on that standpoint. You ask why Acorah did not say Most Haunted were faking things in the interview you posted. I would guess the reason would be that he is still working for LivingTV who also host MH. It would be foolish of any person to start criticising a show that they once appeared on, especially if your new show was also hosted and paid for by the same TV company.

I agree with Acorah that once you get possessed by a spirit you dont remember anything. The head medium at my brothers church has been possessed by spirit in the past and when she comes back to her normal self, can never remember who this other entity was or what they said.

As I stated earlier, my belief is that Acorah was put under immense pressure to come up with spirit information for the show. Otherwise, how would they get to series, what is it 9? with little or no information on the shows?

Also, without Cairen O'Keefe presenting valid evidence that he actually told Acorah these names, who's to say that O'Keefe is lying?

If anyone associated with CC were found to be faking spirit communication then obviously we would not take that person on ghost hunts again. However, considering that the 3 people that go on the hunts are myself, my brother and a Andy, who Ive known for over 20 years, why would any of us even attempt to fool the rest of the group? What would we gain from it?

Finally, where is this forum you speak of? There is no forum on Acorahs official website.

Martin@cosmic conspiracies

Jul 9th, 2006 - 8:45 AM

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im sure if derick is a fake his country wide tour would of dried up ages ago this has been on going for over 2 years
as you know bad news travels fast and with the aid of the internet even faster

its funny how people always remember the faults and not the amazing names dates and other historic evidence which only the owners of a property would know

Occultism

Jul 9th, 2006 - 8:47 AM

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“I’m sure that you can tell that I can fully well see that most of the events on Most Haunted are staged. I think I’ve made myself clear on that standpoint."

So it doesn’t bother you that they lie, defraud and con the public? Because lets face it there are still people who believe its all real don’t you find that wrong?.

"You ask why Acorah did not say Most Haunted were faking things in the interview you posted. I would guess the reason would be that he is still working for LivingTV who also host MH. It would be foolish of any person to start criticising a show that they once appeared on, especially if your new show was also hosted and paid for by the same TV company."

So he made up a lie about evil spirits tricking him just to protect Living TV even though he wanted so expose Most Haunted? If he wanted to expose Most Haunted so much him self as you stated in a few posts back (that’s got full support of livingTV) why is he using them for his own show Ghost Towns? Again doesn’t it bother you that so much lying and smoke and mirrors is going on with Most Haunted and Acorah? Which is why I questioned why such a good site such as this would still be promoting such things.

Most people who are serious about the paranormal have now realised the obvious truth and pay it no attention. Find me one paranormal professional that supports Most Haunted or Derek Acorah.

"I agree with Acorah that once you get possessed by a spirit you dont remember anything. The head medium at my brothers church has been possessed by spirit in the past and when she comes back to her normal self, can never remember who this other entity was or what they said."

But wouldn’t that be a convenient cop out for someone that has been caught using fraud? Oh I don’t remember doing it officer, or the Devil made me do it.

Occultism

Jul 9th, 2006 - 8:48 AM

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"As I stated earlier, my belief is that Acorah was put under immense pressure to come up with spirit information for the show. Otherwise, how would they get to series, what is it 9? with little or no information on the shows?"

Sorry, but you seem to be continually trying to make excuses and glossing things over. Under pressure or otherwise you don’t fake things or exaggerate things and claim they are real.

"Also, without Cairen O'Keefe presenting valid evidence that he actually told Acorah these names, who's to say that O'Keefe is lying?"

What???? The names O'Keefe gave to Derek were anagrams of "Derek Faker" and "Derek Lies" are you saying that its just a coincidence? Its obvious why Cieran would choose an anagram of Derek’s names its to make sure there was no doubt that Derek had taken the bait to use fraud.

I know someone else who is a historian of Blackpool and was asked by Most Haunted to give them info on the history of the tower for a live show, she told them the truth, except for one red herring, a fire man that had died in the tower in a fire (that never happened), just to see if they would use it, and low and behold Derek used it as information his (guide had told him) even though the historian made it up to trick them and Acorah.

"If anyone associated with CC were found to be faking spirit communication then obviously we would not take that person on ghost hunts again. However, considering that the 3 people that go on the hunts are myself, my brother and a Andy, who Ive known for over 20 years, why would any of us even attempt to fool the rest of the group? What would we gain from it?"

Then you should now discredit anything Acorah does and refuse to promote Most Haunted that has made paranormal research look fraudulent to the public.

"Finally, where is this forum you speak of? There is no forum on Acorahs official website."

That’s because of the people on the forum I told you about, they where extremely nasty, and the site wanted nothing more to do with it, so they distanced them selves from it, its now separate from the site, you can find it on the following link.

http://www.derekacorahforum.org/

Occultism

Jul 9th, 2006 - 8:53 AM

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"its funny how people always remember the faults and not the amazing names dates and other historic evidence which only the owners of a property would know"

And I find it equally strange how people refuse to admit when someone has been caught with there hands in the cookie Jar. Even if Derek does have some ability, should he have all his fraudulent activities ignored just so people can continue to blindly continue to worship him? People who con others need to be exposed to the public for who and what they are.

I wish Roger Cook Still did his TV show that exposed Con men.

Dave@Cosmic Conspiracies

Jul 10th, 2006 - 5:26 AM

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'So it doesn’t bother you that they lie, defraud and con the public? Because lets face it there are still people who believe its all real don’t you find that wrong?.'

Have I ever said that? This site does not promote Most Haunted. We have an article on the front page showing a 'rod' taking during a Most Haunted Live. The 'rod' is not faked. Just because we feature a segment from the show does not mean that we have to comment on all previous Most Haunted's and what has happened in them. We are concentrating on the 'rod' footage and nothing else.

I have made it clear that I agree that MH fake things, but you still dont seem to recognise that?

We present an article on Derek Acorah as WE saw him in Cheltenham. Readers are very capable of making up their own minds about what he did on MH or what happens on that show. Our review of Acorah does not cover what he has done in MH so why are you criticising us for his involvement in that show?

I thinks its pretty obvious that the forum you speak of was run by a fan of Acorah who took things a little too far. Is that Acorah's fault? Considering that Derek has been almost constantly on tour for the past 2 years its obvious that he has no input into the forum as he is just too busy. Derek should not be blamed for the actions of a third party who are representing him.

I could give you a great example of how a company that run Zakk Wylde's website (Ozzy Osbourne's guitarist), ran a promotion without his knowledge where members of his fan club could get a free Zakk Wylde guitar if they spent $100 on a replica motorbike model which Wylde also put his name to. Now Zakk Wylde is taking the company to court because not only did they run the promotion without his knowledge, they also ran advertisements on his website about the deal. Nobody has received a free guitar at all. So you really need to investigate who this person was who was representing Derek on his forum before jumping to conclusions.

'So he made up a lie about evil spirits tricking him just to protect Living TV even though he wanted so expose Most Haunted? If he wanted to expose Most Haunted so much him self as you stated in a few posts back (that’s got full support of livingTV) why is he using them for his own show Ghost Towns? Again doesn’t it bother you that so much lying and smoke and mirrors is going on with Most Haunted and Acorah? Which is why I questioned why such a good site such as this would still be promoting such things.'

You see, your problem is that you dont read my posts properly. I didnt say that Acorah wanted to expose MH. And it was LivingTV employing Acorah for Ghost Towns not the other way around. Compare Ghost Towns with Most Haunted and youll see that the set up is completely different. When Most Haunted first started there was a very small crew, but it soon grew into a circus with too many people involved and lots of stuff happening off camera which could not be verified. Ghost Towns uses a small crew and seems a lot more genuine than MH is right now.

If you ask me, Acorah stepped away from MH and did his own show because he could see the criticism and the over-hyped 'encounters' and decided that it was just too over the top.

'Most people who are serious about the paranormal have now realised the obvious truth and pay it no attention. Find me one paranormal professional that supports Most Haunted or Derek Acorah.'

What do you class as a 'paranormal professional'? Somebody who goes on ghost hunts or somebody who is on the circuit or writes books on the subject - in other words, those who make a living from it?

'What???? The names O'Keefe gave to Derek were anagrams of "Derek Faker" and "Derek Lies" are you saying that its just a coincidence? Its obvious why Cieran would choose an anagram of Derek’s names its to make sure there was no doubt that Derek had taken the bait to use fraud.'

Have you ever considered that perhaps Yvette and Karl approached Acorah and said that they needed specific things during the shows to keep viewers watching? Have you also considered that Derek could have been uncomfortable with it and decided to leave? Why else would Acorah leave the most succesful ghost/paranormal show in UK tv history to go solo?

'I know someone else who is a historian of Blackpool and was asked by Most Haunted to give them info on the history of the tower for a live show, she told them the truth, except for one red herring, a fire man that had died in the tower in a fire (that never happened), just to see if they would use it, and low and behold Derek used it as information his (guide had told him) even though the historian made it up to trick them and Acorah.'

But without this conversation being on record anywhere, its all conjecture isnt it?

Dave@Cosmic Conspiracies

Jul 10th, 2006 - 6:12 AM

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'You should now discredit anything Acorah does and refuse to promote Most Haunted that has made paranormal research look fraudulent to the public.'

Why should I discredit Derek Acorah who I have seen live who gave a very accurate reading to a friend of one of the writers on this site?

My belief is that Acorah was asked to fake things and given information for viewer ratings. That is the fault of Yvette and Karl, not Derek. Derek obviously would be under contract for the show and could not leave until that contract expired. I'll ask you the question again - why would Acorah leave the UKs most successful ghost show if he was comfortable with how things were?

Lets also look at how MH cannot keep a medium from one series to the next now that Acorah has left. Gordon Smith did around 6 episodes and left, as did Ian Lawman and Derek Ian Ogilvy.

Before you write any more criticism you should ask yourself why this revelation came out last year from Ceiren O'Keefe just after Acorah announced he was leaving? O'Keefe is under the employment of Karl Beattie and Yvette Fielding, who have also been found to fake things. Why would they keep O'Keefe on board if he was lifting the lid on them faking the show and yet kick out Acorah? Did they think that if they kept their heads low and agreed with O'Keefe's allegation that they would get away scott free?

I dont watch many Most Haunted's because I can see the show for what it is. However, for all the trickery there are certain things that do happen which appear paranormal, Im sure that you agree that there are things that have happened that are genuinely unexplained?

A spokesman for LivingTV said: 'Ciaran O'Keeffe has worked as the programme's official sceptic for 18 months and during this time has not brought any of his concerns to our attention.'

So lets now look who is the main 'culprit' in the MH camp at faking. Yvette Fielding is the number one suspect and without her the program would not exist. It is alway Yvette who shouts out, sees or hears something before anyone else and then asks 'Did you hear/see that?' Its the old Hitchcock fear thing that they use. You dont have to actually see anything to become frightened, you can get an audience gripped by the reaction of the 'actors' rather than what they see. Stuart has always been under suspicion since the series began. I am a very good judge of character and if you ask me he is a constant liar who does things for effect. There is even footage of him and Karl pushing over a ladder and then saying that it was paranormal.

So why didnt O'Keefe spill the beans on them too?

Most of the events on MH are done for viewer ratings. If you or I were conducting a ghost hunt in a supposedly haunted building we wouldn'd do it the MH way. A good example is how things hot up just 15 minutes before the end of every Most Haunted Live. You can guarantee and almost set your watch that things will suddenly start to happen 15 minutes before the closedown at 12pm. And the reason is because the end of the show is what most viewers will remember and it will make them tune in tomorrow because the episode is left on a cliffhanger where you wondered what happened after the show went off air. Its what they do in soap operas - which is a fair comparison.

So my friend, please dont criticise us for supporting Most Haunted, because we dont. We have never claimed that and its a case of you once again jumping to conclusions before actually reading what we write (like you did with the alien autopsy articl). We have commented on an obvious anomaly on the show which isnt faked. We reviewed a Derek Acorah live show, not what he did on Most Haunted.

We should not be criticised for what we dont write about, rather on the what we do write about and whether those facts are accurate, which in my view are spot on.

Occultism

Jul 10th, 2006 - 7:40 AM

Re: Most Haunted caught faking activity live on Camera!!!

Sorry I am not going to get into it anymore after this, I have made my feelings clear on this. Personally I think you are just blocking out the uncomfortable truth and glossing over the fact that they are making the paranormal laughable (which you should refuse to participate in), and only looking into what you want to be true.

No offence, but until you take the paranormal seriously and stop damaging it your self, but clinging onto fantasies then your never going to be a site worthy of being taken seriously only as what some people see Most Haunted as just entertainment. Anyone who knows about the importance of honesty and truth and the importance of not telling lies when it comes to supernatural research will know that if you care about this filed you do not tolerate people who make a mockery of it.

You might think I am being nasty, but I love the search for truth, and while people like Acorah are about, that search is being hindered, and people are not taking it seriously.

You advertise a fraudulent show that openly lies to its public (and yes I have recognised you know its fake) but the fact that you know its fake and still continue to advertise it makes you help most haunted do the damage it does. If you believed it was real maybe you could be forgiven for advertising it, but you know its fake, and that its deceiving the public, yet continue on with your publicising of it.

I just hope you recognize what it is I am trying to tell you, and hope you forgive me for my harshness, and that one day your see I am not really being harsh, I am just trying to help you see something you refuse to see. I instantly saw your site was a great format and had a wide diversity about it with many fascinating subjects, but when something has been proven a fraud its time to move on from then hindering things, unless you are expositing the fraud for others to see.

Even if Acorah does have some ability which he may well do, how can you trust someone that has been proven to lie about his ability?

Take care of your self and keep up your good work with the site.

And thanks for not deleting my posts, it shows you are a true adult that is not afraid of debate.

Dave@Cosmic Conspiracies

Jul 10th, 2006 - 6:36 PM

Re: Most Haunted caught faking activity live on Camera!!!

>> Sorry I am not going to get into it anymore after this, I have made my feelings clear on this. Personally I think you are just blocking out the uncomfortable truth and glossing over the fact that they are making the paranormal laughable (which you should refuse to participate in), and only looking into what you want to be true.

What do you mean 'refuse to participate in'? We dont participate in Most Haunted. How many times to I have to repeat myself before you actually grasp what I am saying? The only piece of footage we comment on is the rod footage which is currently posted on the frontpage of this website. We havent commented on the rest of the show because we hardly watch it.

>> No offence, but until you take the paranormal seriously and stop damaging it your self, but clinging onto fantasies then your never going to be a site worthy of being taken seriously only as what some people see Most Haunted as just entertainment. Anyone who knows about the importance of honesty and truth and the importance of not telling lies when it comes to supernatural research will know that if you care about this filed you do not tolerate people who make a mockery of it. <<

This website has been on the internet for 7 and a half years and gets contacted virtually every week by some TV company or international newspaper wanting information about UFO or paranormal subjects. This website was built from nothing and is now Europes biggest UFO website with well over 1 million hits. Do you think companies such as The Discovery Channel or The History Channel would bother contacting us if our information was untrustworthy? How am I damaging the subject of the paranormal if I am reporting on facts about a persons live show or footage that is anomalous and not taked from Most Haunted?

We do not praise Most Haunted so what is your problem? Put this into context. You might like an actor, but maybe not be a fan of one of his films. Now then, if you decide to review his new film for a website would you write about his new film or the one that you didnt like? We review Derek Acorah live, not what he has done on Most Haunted - can I be any more clear?

>> You advertise a fraudulent show that openly lies to its public (and yes I have recognised you know its fake) but the fact that you know its fake and still continue to advertise it makes you help most haunted do the damage it does. If you believed it was real maybe you could be forgiven for advertising it, but you know its fake, and that its deceiving the public, yet continue on with your publicising of it. <<

We have publicised 'genuine' footage of rod phenomenon taken during Most Haunted Live. What we present on this website is not faked and we do not present any of the information that we know is fake just for a few more hits on the hit counter. I challenge you to read any article on this website and you'll find that they are all balanced articles. From time to time readers write to us correcting mistakes. This has happened on numerous occasions and we correct these errors when we are shown the fault. We also present both sides of the story. Otherwise we would just say films like the alien autopsy are real.

>> I just hope you recognize what it is I am trying to tell you, and hope you forgive me for my harshness, and that one day your see I am not really being harsh, I am just trying to help you see something you refuse to see. I instantly saw your site was a great format and had a wide diversity about it with many fascinating subjects, but when something has been proven a fraud its time to move on from then hindering things, unless you are expositing the fraud for others to see.

Even if Acorah does have some ability which he may well do, how can you trust someone that has been proven to lie about his ability? <<

But this website does not glorify what Derek did on Most Haunted, that is what you are trying to argue and I'm telling you that we have not commented at all on this site about his involvement with Most Haunted or if we believe Most Haunted is real or fake (other than what is in this topic of course.)

The evidence we have provided from Most Haunted is anomalous. It is not Yvette Fielding or any other member of the MH crew faking things. We do not touch anything that even borders on fake on this site - that is why we only have the rods footage from MH and nothing else from the show.

The Derek Acorah page is an independent review of his solo tour - nothing to do with Most Haunted either.

To finish this topic off, I will debate with anybody on any subject on this website because we have nothing to hide. Look at the Apollo thread on this messageboard. Most moderators would have closed that topic down a long time ago, but I like a healthy debate and like to hear other peoples perspectives on things on this site - even if their standpoint does not agree with mine or any of the other writers on this site.

Martin@Cosmic Conspiracies

Jul 11th, 2006 - 1:42 AM

Re: Most Haunted caught faking activity live on Camera!!!

You say you have been investigating the paranormal for 20 years. Well, I have experienced the paranormal since the age of 5 on an almost weekly basis. Thats 37 years of seeing, hearing and feeling paranormal phenomenon. You dont need to tell me what I should or shouldnt be doing to get the message across because for me it is a way of life.

If this website featured articles on Most Haunted, claiming that the faked footage was real then you would have an argument, but we dont.

You need to realise that what you are accusing us of is far from what we actually present on the website.

The way you have attacked us almost makes it look like we are paid by Most Haunted to advertise and praise their show. This website is run and paid for by ourselves, and is successful due to its honest opinions and vast knowledge of many subjects, not sensationalism and lies.

The Most Haunted footage on this site shows rod phenomenon. It does not show anomalous taps, something moving off camera or something being thrown which MH is famous for and which quite frankly is very hard to verify as being genuine due to camera angles.

Not all of what you see on MH is faked. There is what we believe to be a few genuine instances where phenomenon have appeared, despite most of the incidents on the show being under suspicion. However, in the instance of the rod footage any established paranormal investigator should be able to see that the footage isnt faked. I cannot fathom out why you have come here to attack us regarding subjects that we dont even discuss.

Occultism

Jul 11th, 2006 - 4:52 PM

Re: Most Haunted caught faking activity live on Camera!!!

You keep trying to make excuses and I cant keep repeating my self over and over. You are avoiding obvious issues. You seem to justify fraud and lies just because "Some of it might be true" Harold Shipman killed many people, he also cured many, should he be given the benefit of the doubt just because he cured some people, and his wrong doings should be ignored? Its not the same thing, but its the same principle of what your trying to do to cover up the damage Acorah and Most Haunted have done. I never said you where paid to advertise Most Haunted, I know that, but I find it a disgrace that you admit Most haunted is conning the public, but yet you still have it up on your site, the only place Most Haunted should be up on your site is where its telling the public how they are being conned by it, and how you find this wrong, don’t you think you have a responsibility to inform the public of there being conned? But obviously you see no problem with it. This applies to the fraudster Acorah who should be arrested on the fraudulent mediums act, he is getting rich of the gullibility and grieving of others.

I am not going to get onto a I have been investigating longer than you have, as that’s just childish, but obviously experience is not always a good thing, how can someone who has been investigating for son long still think fraudsters are acceptable?

I am sure if the people at the discovery channel did there research better they would know someone who supports fraud should not being giving information to the public. Perhaps someone should inform them?

My beef is not with your knowledge of the paranormal, as you do seem to be quite knowledgeable on the subject, it is with the fact you refuse to accept that Most Haunted and Derek Acorah should be shunted completely by anyone who is serious about the reputation of paranormal research.

You keep saying “we don’t promote it“, but you do, and you should be ashamed at the actions of Most Haunted and Mr Acorah. Why do you think paranormal professionals have all but a few now totally disregarded them? Maybe some are a little slower than others at spotting the immoral wrong doings of fraud.

Occultism

Jul 11th, 2006 - 4:53 PM

Re: Most Haunted caught faking activity live on Camera!!!

"What do you mean 'refuse to participate in'? We dont participate in Most Haunted. How many times to I have to repeat myself before you actually grasp what I am saying? The only piece of footage we comment on is the rod footage which is currently posted on the frontpage of this website. We haven’t commented on the rest of the show because we hardly watch it."

You participate in the misinformation Most Haunted does with its fraud by continuing to advertise it. You need to have a page on both Acorah and Most Haunted on how they have damaged the paranormal, and that they should not be taken seriously at all by anyone.

"How am I damaging the subject of the paranormal if I am reporting on facts about a persons live show or footage that is anomalous and not taked from Most Haunted?"

And how do you distinguish the fake footage "evidence" from the "real" evidence? Even if they have gotten real evidence they have been caught faking things so all evidence should be disregarded. You have to dispose of rotten apples before they destroy the whole barrel.

"We do not praise Most Haunted so what is your problem? "

You might not praise it openly, but you advertise it without telling the truth about it.

"You might like an actor, but maybe not be a fan of one of his films. Now then, if you decide to review his new film for a website would you write about his new film or the one that you didnt like? We review Derek Acorah live, not what he has done on Most Haunted - can I be any more clear?"

Your comparing Derek with an Actor? LOL we are now getting somewhere

You think Derek is an actor? Well done on your first step to enlightenment.

We are not talking about actors, they are frauds all the time, its there jobs to be someone they are not, Derek claims to be talking to peoples passed over loved ones, that’s a little different to acting in a movie. An actor I like can make as many crap movies they like, they are not harming anyone, fraudulent mediums play on the grief of others to get rich, which is the epitome of evil. And you support that.

Martin@Cosmic Conspiracies

Jul 12th, 2006 - 5:26 PM

Re: Most Haunted caught faking activity live on Camera!!!

>> And how do you distinguish the fake footage "evidence" from the "real" evidence? Even if they have gotten real evidence they have been caught faking things so all evidence should be disregarded. You have to dispose of rotten apples before they destroy the whole barrel. <<

Evidence that appears to be paranormal should NOT be disregarded until fully investigated, no matter what kind of show that evidence appears on.

What you want is for us to not report on any event that we attend where we think genuine spirit information is being related by a medium. That is not going to happen. We will report on what we feel is genuine paranormal evidence.

You should consider what we write, not what you want us to write. The two articles you refer to are in my opinion, interesting for our readers, truthful and relevent for this site. We are only interested in genuine phenomenon so why would we report on something that is obviously faked from the show? We are not interested in it so we choose not to write about it.

We acknowledge the shenanigans that happen on MH. We choose not to write about them because this website focuses on true paranormal phenomenon not faked footage. Just because we do not write about them does not mean we dont know about it.

I would suggest that you go onto the Most Haunted forum and express your concerns about the show, not turn up here and start preaching to us what we should or shouldnt be writing about. And on the contrary, we are not writing about any fake events from either Derek Acorah or Most Haunted anyway. Im sure that readers are very capable of searching the internet to see the faked footage if they so wish, as I have done in the past.

I have made our standpoint very clear to you that we agree that Most Haunted fake things and that Derek Acorah acts very differently on Ghost Towns to how he was on MH. What this suggests to me is that Derek is now running the show how he perceived MH would be when he joined the team - a small select crew and no faking.

If you have such a hang up about Most Haunted then I would suggest starting up your own website with the fake footage - however there are plenty of sites already doing this.

The rod footage was sent in by a reader to this site and we have reported on it because we find it interesting and unusual.

Pefficvs

Aug 31st, 2006 - 11:19 AM

Re: Most Haunted caught faking activity live on Camera!!!

I have watched allmost all of most haunted. I look to find the genuine as well as the fake. I have said this before if you add up over the series how many things you have seen its very very little indeed except for the ocational orb..With the amount of eqiptment, experience and funding available you would think they could get a bit more concrete evidence. The cameras are never in the right places they point right at their faces. I dont want to see their emotions i want to see whats going on around them. So this leaves a big void for tampering as there is a lack of genuine activity.As for yvette well she is either screaming a lot and if you listen to her (rather not)she will put thoughts into the crews minds by saying "Did you hear that" or "What was that did you see that".For example on one program she was hit in the ear by a moth and was convinced someone touched her then some of the crew said "yes i definatly feel something here". YES IT WAS A MOTH. This is why it is hard to trust the authentisity of the programe.I would love to be given a crew and camera i would gaurentee of getting evidence.Its not hard you just need planning and patience.I could never makeout Derek Acorah..I didnt quite trust the possestion bit and i have to say he did "APPEAR" to be acurate in most of his readings.But who knows if he was given evidance on arrival! (sorry about spellling mistakes ooopps)

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