Best middles school feeder program and follows the high school program they feed into. Note follows the high school they feed into. Hornedo did before the change of program
that is coming.

well basset is very succesful..no wonder chapin is good, all the basset kids go there,sucks for austin cause if chapin had not opened all those kids would go there.

WHOOO HOOO SLIDER!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO

its all about dem STALLIONS!!!! YEEEEHAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually the majority of the kids at Bassett go to Austin High School, there are just a few select neighborhoods that move on to Chapin. Of course, some of the better kids will go to Chapin citing it is for academics when in actuality they would just rather be involved in athletics at Chapin as opposed to Austin.

Austin is still predominantly an Austin feeder school.

I mean Bassett is predominantly an Austin feeder.

the middle school with a good program has to be valley view. I played at valley view three years ago and my 7th grade year is when the program started rising. They finally got some other good coaches to help coach richie and coach hernandez. These guys were awsome. They really got us ready for high school football. Now Coach Richie is the head coach and the school is a power house. All their other coaches are x dv players so there is alot of pride in this program.

Give the coaches at Hillcrest credit they win every year.GO VIKINGS

yup those guys win it evry year they deserve props. I heard two of them left to coach high school though at ba

COACH NUNEZ AND COACH FLORES ARE AT BA WHO WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL AT HILLCREST

Hillcrest has to be considered as one of the best MS programs in the city. We did fall a bit this past year due to a head coaching change but coach fernandez will continue the tradition established by coach Nunez and coach Flores. Despite the change in HC, the program was still in contention for the district title.

coach richie at valley view also has that program on top. He just finds away to get under your skin to motivate. When you play for coach richie you play with heart and fire. Hes a **** good coach. Best coach i have ever played for. I am what i am because of him.

BASSETT MIDDLE SCHOOL PUTS OUT THE BEST ATHLETES PERIOD!!! GREAT COACHING STAFF AND KIDS THAT WANT TO PLAY WITH FOR THEM...THEY MAKE FOOTBALL ENJOYABLE WHILE KEEPING THEM AT A WINNING PACE!!! WHEN THE GO TO HIGH SCHOOL THATS WHEN MOST ATTITUDES CHANGE..THE KIDS THAT GO TO CHAPIN GO TO A PROGRAM THEY CAN RELATE TO CAUSE ITS GOOD...WHILE THE KIDS THAT GO TO AUSTIN GO TO A PROGRAM THAT IS NOT AS GOOD AS THEY THOUGHT AND QUIT OR BECOME LAZY AND WHAT NOT THATS WHY THERE NOT AS GOOD AS CHAPIN. CHAPIN MAKES THE KIDS WORK AND HAVE GREAT DISAPLINE TO KEEP THE KIDS IN LINE WHILE KEEPING FOOTBALL FUN!!! I WENT TO BASSETT AND DONT GO TO EITHER AUSTIN NOR CHAPIN BUT HAVE MANY FRIENDS THAT HAVE OR ARE GOING THREW THIS.....

i was in the stands and witness 29 riverside middle school players beat 70+ lincoln players by 10 points in one of those yisd / episd championship games...these were 7th graders .

Yeah, I was there too. Their 8th graders were in the Championship game for their division too, but they lost that one to Hornedo I believe.

The championship games are not EPISD vs YISD though. I think they are county wide since Horizon and Canutillo were competing in the championship games for their respective divisions as well.

Your right Hornedo did win there forth city champinship and there 10 district championship in 13 years. Know it is yisd to episd for the title the way Kenny set it up. PS Kenny as some coaches have found out ant know coach or friend too manny.

i just think there are some great middle school coaches out there that dont get reconized. There a bunch of great dominant programs. What i know about the one i attended valley view is that they were apowerhouse back then they struggled due to coaching changes and ever since coach Richie got there he has brought that program back to prominence more importantly he is an outstanding coach. Props out to all middle school coaches

fhs, there is no doubt that Hornedo is a good program but the city championship has only been in existence for two years, therefore the 4 years you mentioned seem a little exagerated. The first year the city championship was worked out YISD swept the two divisions it participated in, plus Hillcrest won both 7th and 8th grade championships in the first ever city championships.

Wrong facts speak for them selves and facts also make records. Call EPISD and ask them the first city championship game for episd was HMS and THS middle hms won. the Second the same and they won. The third was Cordova HMS won and the third was this year Riverside HMS won. So as a follower I might be wrong three. However. 10 city is right I know for a fact. Now Yisd might have done the chmp thing longer don't know I do know there ath director was at the game not our's . Too much FBI stuff with coaches.

WELL YOU TALK ALOT BUT AFRAID TO PLAY MY BOYS AT GOOD OL SAN ELI MIDDLE IF YOU WANT A CHALLENGE THEN CALL THE DISTRICT TO PLAY A REG SEASON GAME AND WELL GO FROM THERE. LOOK NOT NEW TO COACHING BUT NEW TO THE SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY WE HAVE MADE ARRANGEMANTS TO BE @THE CITY CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR SO DONT SING IT BRING EAGLE PRIDE !!!

I like that. Make aragements too. Would love a game for HMS or Brown next year. Love to play the new be's. I did not know san Eli had a new coach?

Hands down hillcrest has the best football program
too bad they feed into Bel Air

If hillcreast is the best then bel air would at least have a descent team

Lincoln is the best middle school program. Lincoln feeds to Franklin and Coronado. Job Salmon, Sabian Dixon, Chris Marrow, Julian Davila are all from Lincoln

Slider is the top in SISD. Gabe Flores, Josh Flores, Jason Donaldson, Jacob Ruelas, Danny Perez, Julio Lopez, and oldies who graduated like Bruno Tyree, Richard Cortez, Willie and Dustin Novotny, Rudy Vallez are all ex-Stallions.

STALLIONS!

Lincoln= DYNASTY

When our class played for LMS we beat riverside i think 34-0 or something like that both years. So i dunno what your sayin about riverside beatin lms.

Too bad the SISD does not participate in the ciy championships.

let me tell you that hillcrest cannot be the best cause the have new head coach that doesn't no what he is doing.I know personally EAGLE PRIDE

I am talking about this past season. Riverside's 7th graders beat Lincoln Middle and Riverside's 8th graders lost to Hornedo Middle in the city championships for their given regions.

i do not think you can judge a teams success by their middle school success. henderson always had powehouse middle school teams, but they never amounted to anything at jefferson. hillcrest had middle school powerhouses that did not translate into too much at bel air. don't trust that you jv team won district last year and will win district at the varsity level. there are too many factor to consider.

You're right. Middle school success does not translate to later success. Success at the Freshman and JV level does not translate into varsity success either, but it does give you an idea of what they can potentially become at the varsity level.

I gotta aslo give mad props to Coach richie from VAlley View. Hes an wasome coach. It was very dissapointing not to give him the championship he deserves. We came so close but fumbled it away to parkland. coach richie is a great coach and he has all VAlley View players full of pride.

You all are talking about Middle schools what about Horizon Middle they went undefeated last year and won the championship then went on this year to win undefeated again and lost to a good Basset team in the championship. Great Coaches Ramos and Gallego!!! Go Hawks

represent slider!!!hahahahahahahahaha

Mad ups to coach richie! Hes the man! Go Giants go big bad blue!

do all high school work with their middle schools? I hear they some just let them do wahtever they want?

WALTER E. CLARKE MIDDLE SCHOOL BABY!!!!!!!

hulkster what are you talking about? dont you work for a new coach that doesnt know anything either? at san eli

cordova 7th divison champs
cordova 8th divison champs
austin 9th district champs
austin JV runner-up 4 district
austin varsity....? well have to wait and see

......

hillcrest of course....
but maybe now with bel airs new head coach
there succcess will lead 2 district champs

I remember my middle school year we didnt win the championship but we came in second to a parland team that picked up a player from the hurricane katrina disaster. Without him we would of beat them. We also happened to fumble 5 times in the red zone and 2 of those were inside the 5 so we should of of won the cahampionship. but like the great coach Richie said no excuses we had our chance and let it go by. Eventhough we didnt win we learned so much from coach Richie and his coaches that got us ready for high school and thats what i think middle school is all about, getting ready for high school football were the tru football players play.

WELL WELL MR DESERT WARROIR THE MANICS CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO SAN ELI IS BUT LET TELL YOU YOU SOMETHING YOU COULD NOT TIE THE SHOE TO THIS MAN ABOUT FOOTBALL NOR COULD YOU HOLD A JOCK STRAP TO HIM BUT HE IS VERY KNNOWLEDGEABLE IN AREAS WHERE MOSTS COACHES AREN'T.

i remember i went to this bassett vs nolan ricarson game and there qb threw this maybe 55 yard pass to the reciever on the scramble

Was the Bassett game during the 2005/2006 or the 2004/2005 season? If so, I think you are talking about Michael Williams. I saw the kid throw about 45 to 50 yards with no problem and he was only in 8th grade. He was headed to Chapin. I don't know if he ended up there though.

yes he was a very good player

yes he has so much potential i think he moved to san antonio he must be doing good over there, but if he could have stayed he could be starting anywhere? he would be a great key for chapin meaning that there not going to have any more qb's after this year

there are bunch of kids to have tremendous talent while in middle school but its sad to see these players bust in high school. Thats why it is important that middle school coaches help build characters in their players

LINCOLN MIDDLE SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS all i have to say

How would El Paso middle school programgs compare to the rest of the state?

i remenber Eastwood feeder system having alot of kids that were terrible maybe win a game or two , but when these kids reach HS they matured and won about 5 to 7 dist titles in a row. Some of the programs with hispanic kids that mature ealry and pick at Hilcrest kill everybody but when everyone catches up with them it's a different story example Bel-Air?

It boggles the mind

lincolin middle julian and diego davila waldo r jojo herbert sean raz vinnie gomeze many alveradoo yves reulet and oscar m all came from there so ther is no competition i would put those players aganst any other group in the city

You didn't even name the best players to come out of Lincoln. Chris Marrow, Sabian Dixon, Nate Jackson, Job Salmon, Sean Quinn... And many others. No disrespect, honestly, but those players you just named are 2nd rate to these guys.

i agree matt

Don't forget Coach Grijalva also came from Lincoln.

HORIZON MIDDLE has been to 3 straight city championships

who's yves roulet and oscar m.? never heard of those guys!

Neither have I heard those two names.

Middle school is just that, and coaches and players who dewell on what was accomphishin midlle school , need to stay in middle school, the true middle system are the ones in east texas,

i think terrace hills had an awesome winning tradition feeding into andress. coach u was a kick ass coach.

how would el paso middle schools compare outside of el paso very well why because outside of el paso a middle school succes is teaching player a offense and defense position getting everyone playing time and moving all your kids from seventh to eight eightt to ninnth ninth to tenth and tenth to varsity when i told a midland lee coach about junior high championship he fell otu of the booth laughing there not interest in being middle school champs only state champs el paso middle school principle are a large part of the problem wanting there middle school teams to win

I agree just recently I askedt a coach from the greater dallas area about the Middle school program and who where some of the best coaches out there. His reply it's not importanrt who is the best coach or whos has the more championships it's a team Philosophy rooting to the HS the state championships matters not middle school he also laughed and said topics like this were none existant in the Dallas area he was surpised they were here?

here's a middle school sucess idea before the seventh and eight grade game have a 20 or 30 min scrimmage with the kids not expected to play as much and have the coaches ref that way everyone would get more experience if you used your studs you use up there energy before the game

Nolan Richardson Middle is a feeder for Chapin and Andress...both are premire high school programs in El Paso and the surrounding area!!! A lot of the kids at Nolan played for the N.E. Raiders....another premire program in El Paso!! Success feeds success...

Why do you keep bringing up the N.E. Raiders on this site?

He must be promoting them

because the N.E. Raiders are a power house little league team who has alot of great talent.

got to give it up to coach kemp at clarke for the outstanding back to back undefeated season by the 8th grade and also undefeated 7th grade last year doesnt really get any better than that. Well have to see if he will get 3, and you feel the dynasty.
GO WALTER CLARKE COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8th grade football HMS 12 years of football.
95-07
96-97 Dis champs
98-99 Dis champs
00-01 Dis champs city champs Terris Hills 28-0
01-02 Dis Champs runner up agins Terris Hills 0-27
04-05 Dis champs city champ
06-07 Dis champs city champs
Hms is now split 7th and brown and 8th at Hornedo don't know the coach but what a program for Franklin.

is this strand trying to say if you when in little league and middle school you win in high school no way

the only reason that basset is so good is because alot of those kids have flunked and alot older that other middle school kids, those kids all play for chapin now

here we go with the excuses again. uil has eligibility rules that are not based on what grade ur in but how old you are. chapins the same as any other school.

Its a shame that all the basset boiz go to chapin instead of austin. But we dont need them we have enough talent for a district championship this year and the next..but after that its gonna be very ugly for austin. But maybe if we produce something these upcoming 2 years we will get basset kids to come over to austin

When Chapin misses the playoffs this year maybe those bassett boys will make a better choice in 2008

I love how you all are counting your wins before they happen. dont count chapin out yet just cuz austins jv was good last year. whether or not they win district, it is highly unlikely they will miss playoffs. I would not be surprised if they beat austin or if they do win district. andress is the team to beat this year

hey maus nobody said anything bout our jv being good last year..i based my info on our seniors those guys havent had a district championship since their freshman year and man those guys are hungry!!

not sayin you did. just sayin it wont be a cakewalk. its not good for anyone to count wins before the season begins. & there are many ppl hungry for a dc & alot of seniors in ep that want to make their last year special.

VIVA CORDOVA!!! There not the best but they play hard and till the end!!

WELL EVERYONE LIKES TO TALK BUT I AM NOT A TALK I AM A SHOWER GEMS EAGLES WILL BE CONTENDER THIS YEAR PLUS WILL START A TRADITION THAT THEY HAVE NOT SEEN THERE IN SAN ELI IN A LONG TIME SO FELLAS GET READY FOR A LONG RIDE

What does this have to do with middle school success?

I think middlle school succes is very inportant and if i remember right rite in 2003 mootwood(1) in city beat canutillo(2) in city by 6 point back then. Iam not saying that mootwood is better than canutillo the only thing iam saying tha we have to pay attention to the middle school program more.

valley view giants all the way baby

VALLEY VIEW #1

is there anybody even close to hillcrest come on guys......... they have the most city champchips by far..... and they have endless back to back undefeated seasons beating teams like eastwood valley view camino parkland.... its not even a question.. i wish i could have played there

Basset middle school
Charles by far coach darren walker use to coach there and so did coach Hernandez now chapin coach,

everyone forgets about riverside middle they win championships year in and year out in both the seventh and eighth grade

Dont u guys forget horizon middle when to the city championship i believe twice and won district 2 when they just opened the school is a **** shame that they got to go to horizon high school, if they would send them to americas then that would be nice. Besides the only reason they when to the championship was because of their running-back Dave Ramirez #21

Middle school success can only be measured by the success of the high school they feed into. If a high school has success one year and falters the next....that shows that the feeder schools are not producing quality players. Nolan Richardson Middle feeds into Andress and Chapin. These two schools are successful year after year. I would have to say that Bassett, Canyon Hills, and Nolan R. are consistantly the top Middle school programs in our city!!! Northeast....easily the best football in El Paso!!!

Hornedo beat everyone of those schools you listed. Sooo how are those schools the best middle schools again.

All middle schools will have good athletes at thier schools. a decent coaching staff can win district at this level if they just coach the basics of fb. yes , some programs constantly have better athletes there but that doesnt determine how good hs programs will be.

fhs.... the results of a successful middle school program shows in the success of the high school they feed into. The consistancy of a winning program at the high school level depends on the consistant winning at the middle school level. Do the math....Chapin and Andress have success year in and year out because of the quality middle school programs that feed into them. Hornedo may have success on occasion, but it stops there. Not much happening after the kids move on to high school!!!

Hornedo feeds too Franklin. Were again does the success stop. Again not getting your thought. Also ,Hornedo as of 1995 look at above post has won all the time. I checked with staff at Franklin Hornedo and Brown are his first feeder school. They never went to the middle schools that feed Chapen. I here the Hornedo staff and brown staff have been working with the new staff at franklin now for along time. The kids have seen them.

Simple....because Andress and Chapin are easlily the best football programs in the city, you can determine that the feeder schools are the best in town too!!! They go hand in hand!!!

we'll see how good bassett is first game of the year when they play riverside

That is funny iknowfootball. What are you basing your (false) assumption on that those two programs are the best in El Paso? "Easily"? You need to change your name because you obviously don't know football.

I've seen what El Paso has to offer in middle school and high school football. The only two programs worth mentioning with other west texas football programs are Chapin and Andress (Franklin too thanks to Coach Walker!!)!!! I am from the Odessa area where REAL football football is played.....I DO KNOW WHAT GOOD FOOTBALL IS!!! I played 4 years @ Odessa Permian in the early 80's...again....I KNOW FOOTBALL. Some of the 2A teams around Odessa would give almost all El Paso schools a good game if not beat them handily!!! You are probably from El Paso, where football is a distant second to soccer and a good trio!!!

This "REAL" football you speak of doesn't exist at Permian anymore. I dont want to be a jerk iknowfootball but you are simply wrong.

I guess you just don't get it...I know what I am talking about from experience. I am loyal to high school football. I have traveled to every Chapin football playoff game and have not missed one local game since the school has opened up. I have seen many of the El Paso high school programs, and I have not been impressed with very many of them especially 2-4A. Again, I am from an area that bleeds football, and your boys are bread as football players because it's a way of life. I know what it is to be part of a winning program that has made an impact on high school football statewide. Bottom line is that in MY opinion, Richardson and Bassett are the premiere middle school programs in El Paso....the success is in the high schools they feed into. Without good middle schools, the high schools would not have success!! Again.....Chapin and Andress--the best El Paso has to offer!!!

hey iknowfootball, if you're such an expert and hater of El Paso football, why do you continue to come to this board? Makes not sense to me. I'm sure odessa has a board where you can give you 2cents.

You have an argument on Chapin even though I would say Franklin is the best but Andress? No way...

Glad to see we agree on something!!! Franklin is tops in El Paso...especially now that Walker is there!! We just need to support El Paso football regardless of who feeds who or who has a better program. Hopefully we will see El Paso go deeper into the playoffs and eventually win a state title!!

Most of Bassett's kids go to Austin. A smaller percentage go to Chapin. Although more and more are opting for Chapin.

For those of you saying things like "Just because walker is at franklin!" Give me a break. Franklin was already an established program once walker got there. It's ironic that he got there after Franklins worst season, or it's not ironic to many , it's just the final piece to the puzzle to many. A great coach from Chapin goes to Franklin, the school w/ the most enrollment and magically he becomes a God at franklin without him coaching a game. We should all give credit to the franklin coaches who established that program.
They go by the name of: Henry, Grijalva, Camili, Marlin, Anderson, Smith. I could go on.

Nothing against walker, I'm just getting tired of people talking about walker like he's going to establish a program that was already established. When he does what grijalva did in 05 which was win an area championship and possibly take his franklin cougar team to Texas stadium, I will see him as a candidate for best Franklin coach in history. But right now, coach walker is the coach walker who was a great coach at Chapin. Until Walker wins Franklin an area game, that's when you can maybe say he's better than Grijalva, but right now Grijalva is the better coach no doubt, it's in the paper, it's everywhere. Walker can't beat 2 outta town opponents, Grijalva can. I wish coach walker good luck this year and I will be at games to support him.

Grijalva was the first coach in El Paso history to win area in 5A. He is also the first coach in El Paso history to beat two out of town teams. I agree with Acrossthenation I really hope that Walker can take Franklin to the next level but until he does that, do not make it seem as though the previous staffs were not great because they were.

I agree!! Grijalva was real good, and Walker will continue the tradition at Franklin. We are not saying that Walker will start a winning tradition at Franklin, rather he will be the exclamation point to the program. He is the one that can lead them further than they have ever been!!! Grijalva would have done the same if he would have stayed!!

I retract my previous statement. You do know football...

Thanks!!

Everybody better watch out for Henderson!

Clarke Middle School has owned SISD for years!!

HORNEDO BABY......LINCOLN SUCKS

hornedo we beat them both year really bad we where the class of 2006

danny did you have to use the word s**ks? Come on man think really hard you might actually find another word in that brain of yours.

I know this is off topic but does anyone know how that Hornedo football player who was badly injured years ago is doing? I hope he is doing much much better. I don't know his name.

by district
EPISD
riverside, hornedo
YISD
eastwood,that one that feeds into bel air not ranchland
SISD
slider, clarke

hms has the most dis and city chap than any other middle school. They won city again last year. Three out off the five that city has been around.Riverside lost at the 8th level. 19-14 not as close as the score.

HAMBRIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alderrete middle and Canutillo middle, they both feed into Canutillo High.

Eastwood Middle always has an awesome program, most players decide to play at MHS or HHS after wards because of the current coaching staff at eastwood

Who cares about middle school football this is Texas High School Football not middle school football

CISD Horizon,Clint,and East Montana we might be small team but dont under estimate our power to play football

Bassett baby!!! Always has had a winning tradition!!! Central side!!!

SOCORRO HIGH FEEDER PATTERN WOOO HOOO!!!
SANCHEZ MIDDLE
SOCORRO MIDDLE
SERNA
DESERT WIND
ALL THESE ScHOOLS FEED INTO SHS!!!!!

SOCORRO HIGH FEEDER PATTERN WOOO HOOO!!!
SANCHEZ MIDDLE
SOCORRO MIDDLE
SERNA
DESERT WIND
ALL THESE ScHOOLS FEED INTO SHS!!!!!


OH AND THEY ALL GOT BEAT BY CLARKE HA!

RIVERSIDE IS THE BEST MIDDLE SCHOOL 7TH GRADE CITY CHAMPIONS IN O6-07 RETURNING TO THE CITY CHAMPIONSHIP IN 07-08

And RHS got beat by the Horizon Hawks today!

i think guillen has had powerfull teams in the last 4 years and in 2 years they are going to have a powerfull varsity team... so the other schools better prepare because BOWIE is coming BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again Hornado with Peden and Alavarado 13 dis champ wins 5 city championships. Two years undefeated.Now at Brown doing the same thing. AS a parent how does anyone not see this. People wonder why FHS is soo good. A program that works. What is up at Hornedo>? That team whent undefented at Brown.

lincoln bby why do you think coronado and franklin are always good hornedo is just full of posers

Posers thats the problem with the ten year old's on this site. Success and wins. Sorry LMS = losses P>S why do the FHS coaches go to all the brown games?

westside, now who is actiing like the ten year old. you are a parent arguing over which middle school is the best, with a middle schooler. real mature. i hope franklin coaches keep going to the brown and hornado games because that makes the LMS players go to Coronado. you can begin seeing the difference in the quality of players each school is getting. by the way i will be sending this email of yours with your statement of the franklin coaches to LMS football. real nice recruiting.

west side take it easy there. EPgridiron bans users in a heartbeat

americas ..has good fedders for football..clarke n ensor.....for b ball its the aztecs

These guys all went to Lincoln - several of them are starters at FHS

Franklin starters - went to Lincoln





3 of 5 of these staters went to Lincoln




sophmore from Lincoln doing great on FHS Varsity



3 of 4 went to Lincoln





and lots more I don't have pics of

He went to Lincoln too -


Thomas Parsons, Freshman, LSU One of the southwest’s top offensive tackles

man its got to be both riverside middle school, and rio bravo middle school. riverside has always had a good middle school football program. rio bravo used to be bad but now with there coaches they are turning everything around and becoming a dominent program. just 2 years ago they won the city title. and riverside has like what a good number of city titles? another school is hillcrest they are one of the best in the city. yet once they go to high school everything changes bel air football is horrible and with the coaches and there schemes to success they are failures and it makes the players play and look bad. not dissing nobody from bel air just the football program you guys need new coaches just like ysleta same stuff there schemes to win are just horrible. anyways back to middle school another is eastwood middle always a good football team and desert view those are the 2 dominent programs in the yisd division 1

Eastwood middle was beat by Brown 36-6 this year. Last year Brown beat Desert view 42-14. This year Brown put 46 on Terrace Hills, 62 points on Henderson. They look like they will go to city again this year. I know they follow the same program as Franklin and it seems to work. Note Coach walker and family are prayers are with you.

it funny how rio bravo says they are going up they lost to san eli middle 22-0

Any Lincoln scores?

your right passion. they lost but its the 7th grade. now that i think about i didnt but good details with the grade levels. i was talking about the 8th grade levels in all the middle schools i mentioned. right now rio bravo 8th grade are undefeated and they are going to play there biggest rivals this week at camino real. they might go 4-0 after this week. rio bravo has a good team for being one of the smallest middle schools in the city.

watchout for valley view 7th grade 21-6 over morehead. 48-6 over henderson and 19-7 over riverside.

BMS 54-0 GMS This seventh grade team ran trap,counter both ways and shot gun. Wow, not just base and man on eather. I saw doubles cuts everything. Great game to watch.

Valley View 50-6 over IndianRidge.

The only two that Montwood needs:

Montwood Middle
and
Slider Middle

desert view dominated their division last year then lost to brown in the championship. This undeafeated and uncontested desert view team lost to riverside 6-2 last week. Whats going on in the other middle schools. Hows lincoln doing? Brown Hornedo?

Brown beat DVM in reg season and in the championship game last year. Brown has not lost a game. Same coaching staff that was at Hornedo. 12 dis championships and 4 city championships. Whent to Brown and the first year there won city. The staff at Brown has not lost a game in two years.

I HEAR THAT valley view (they feed in to del valle) is real good. Hopefully both teams hold up and make for a good game. I think the game is at hanks for the city championship. Thats if both teams make it. Has brown played lincoln?

The Lincoln Warriors 7th and 8th are both 5-0. The Hornedo is 4-1 they lost 12-0 to Terrace Hills, and Brown is 5-0. Does anyone have any updates on Riverside, Valley View, or who is in first place in the ysleta divisions.

The westside always has the best middle school programs.

With players like Scott Grantham, Sabian Dixon, Chris Marrow, Clayton Byrd (should've went to Lincoln, but moved to el paso after MS), joey frias, The davila brothers, waldo rodriguez, job salmon, kenny coon omar duarte you can't go wrong.

Hornedo/Brown and Lincoln are always the best programs. I dare anybody to ask EP gridiron who they think is the best middle school program, they will answer you with these two schools....

Don't forget coach grijalva also coached at lincoln before he went to Franklin.

The Hornedo coaching staff is different than the last 15 years with Peden and Alavarado. They are now at brown and have not last a game in three years. The team at Hornedo was undefeted in 7th grade at Brown. I understand they lost one in 8th at Hornedo.Brown is 5-o 46-0,36-6,62-0,54-0,36-0. Have Morehead at Brown this Saturday. Will be interesting Lincoln, Morhead played and Lincoln won 6-8. Valley View I heard one of the coaches say is still undefeted not sure about Riverside.

Brown won 36-0 v Morehead. Lincoln played them 6-8 last week. Brown and Lincoln Thursday at Coranado.

actually right now its wiggs
they gave ep a freshman team thats unstoppable
in middle school they won back to back division champs
and one city championship

Wiggs is episd. What team from yisd will the episd schools play?

honestly sometimes u can't determine.... when i went to eastwood middle in 2006 we won the district championsip and and beat Canyon Hills for the City Championship which is a Chapin and somwhat Austin feeder middle school. Also we beat hillcrest 14-7. Right now at eastwood high the freshmen jv and varsity team haven't won more than 2 games so far.

great job Guillen Middle School 7th grade. Won EPISD division. Will play for city championship for 1st time in over 10 years.

Valley View i heard bashed through another appontent 32-0 in the 7th grade. The yisd 8th division i hear riverside is still undefeated

I hear that lincoln and brown are playing for the district title today winner goes to city. And Valley View 7th and riverside 8th just need to win saturday to go

yes, fan, Lincoln plays Brown/Hornedo tonight at Coronado. 7th grade is at 5:30 and 8th grade is at 7. They play at Coronado because it's a huge rivalry and draws a big crowd. It's usually the district titles and kind of the middle school West Side Bowl.

7th grade Brown- 28
7th grade Lincoln- 0

8th grade tied 12 to 12

Then the AD decides they are going to do the coin toss right then when the players were still on the field. After much cheering that they didn't lose, Lincoln was ripped off by a coin toss. Hornedo will advance to the championship game next Thursday. That was really rough on Lincoln.

That Brown team is now undefeted for two years. The Brown coaching staff had that Hornedo team last year and beat Lincon 44-22 could not belive that was a game. A coin flip should not decide the game. I saw both games even stood next to a Brown coach. He said the team at Hornedo was not the team they coached last year not sure what the staff was doing running the clock down. Anyway good luck what a night.

Lincoln was ripped off. There should be over time in middle school, not a coin flip.

How good is the 7th grade Brown football team? What do they have?

very good at every position. How many time can you run split backs and never change positions for LMS. Again what schools run the high school program. Stay on the program. What programs are winners.

BASSETT MAD DAWGS!!!!!!!!

Jane Hambric 7th grade
first time 2008 Co-District Champs! Go Hawks!

WIGGS WOLVERINES
new dynasty

8th grade Hornedo doesn't look bad at all too. They got some big kids on the offensive line (and by big I mean lean big, not fat big), and on the defense too. The runningback #32 for hornedo is also very shifty and quick.

Coach walker and all the franklin coaches are the luckiest coaches in town. They got the best feeder schools lincoln and hornedo.

Armendariz (aka cordova) advance to play Camino real for the championship thursday at Austin

Brown beat Lincoln 28-0 plays Valley View. Valley lost to Eastwood Middle on Saturday. Brown beat EM in the beging of the year 36-6. Total points for brown offense 295 total points. Points scored on Brown 6.

NO ONE IS LIKE HMS WE WENT 3TIMES TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP NO MIDDLE SCHCOOL IS LIKE HMS

camino real baby they taking it tonight at austin high school

These Valley view kids are tough! Im a riverside parent and these guys play hard and tough. I hope they take care of buisness tonight.

Good Luck Hornedo tonight at your district game.

HILLCREST VIKINGS ARE THE BEST MIDDLE SCHOOL FOOTBALL PROGRAM. THEY ARE BACK IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME TONIGHT AGAINST GUILLEN. GO HMS. GOOD LUCK VIKINGS...

Canutillo 7th and 8th are both playing for bi-district tonight.

Good luck Eagles!!!

Brown 62- valley view 18. Three years now undefeted. City Champs.

This Brown 7th grade team is a machine. I've seen a lot of good teams before but this team has a certain chemistry and determination that I have not witnessed with other teams. Of course it starts with good leadership and coaching and the Brown coaching staff has excelled in these areas since the first day of practice. As for the team, Brown's defense domintated all season as evidenced by the margins of victory each week, including last night's championship 62- 18. As for the offense, I have never seen a more proficient well run offense for a team this age. The team ran out of various formations all season and was never stopped. The unique thing about these kids however is that each Saturday (and Thursdays !) they played as a team, no egos, no superstars, just a bunch of kids having fun. Great job Coaches Alvarado, Peden, and Timbroke. Hopes these kids stick together and contiunue to play in the future. I can't wait till my little one has the opportunity to play for Brown one day.

Franklin has a bright future ahead of them with Lincoln, Brown, Hornedo...

That valley view team dominated through its oponents all year to bad they lost their stud tailback last week during the eastwood game their other tailback was just as good though putting these two together looks scary. Brown was a great team and you cannot take anything away from them. This rematch for next year championship game should be better. That valley view team is better than they showed.

Bulldogs o8 I agree that team is great. Formations that you only see on Fridays were being used. Many High school coaches were looking very close.

The Hornedo football staff left HMS after winning the eight grade title V Riverside. Opened up Brown won that first year and again last night undefeted for three years. The coaches now at brown have 13 dis titles and 6 city championships with HMS and Brown. EPISD should say something.

The MacArthur Ponies 7th grade football team ended the district season undefeated and faced the Canutillo football team for the championship. We did lose the game 19-6 but I can easily say, that the MacArthur team will return next year hungrier and show all of El Paso we belong in the elite teams of this city. GREAT SEASON 7TH GRADE PONIES!!!

Last night cordova(division champs) beat camino real for the city championship!!!
The following game basset lost the city championship to canutillo by a point..
What does this mean? Hopefully the talent going to Austin and Chapin can develop into good playoff teams.

WIGGS WOLVERINES!!!!

hows Wiggs doing this year

hey how about private school flag football

1. St. Pius (B)7-1
2. St. Patrick 6-2
3. St.Joseph 5-3 the real champs
4. St. Raphael 3-3
5. OLV 1-5
6. St. Pius(G) 0-6

Flag

the St. Joseph St. Raphael game wasent exactley flag. their was at lest 5 guys with busted open heads and one guy got his teeth knocked out

Sorry it came to this.

wiggs
last year and two years ago, back to back division champs and one city championship - gettin killed in the city game 34-8 (final record 15-1)

but that camino real team had some real talent for killing them that bad, going 8-0 and shutting out all teams except for wiggs

for those that say brown, possibly. but they dont have enough talent to win city. look at last year, they got killed in the city game by ROSS. that was the seventh grade game, followed by wiggs gettin killed by camino real.
now this year brown going at it again in city, but idk if they won or what happened.

JAMs aka cordava the class 2008-2009 won divison and city only one loss to basset think about it the players from austin were divsion champs at cordava i know most of the of cordava kids go to austin while some kids from basset go to austin most of them go to chapin so no matter what there both good teams

Panther pride. Know what is going on before you post. Brown has not lost a game in two years. Dis and city champions last year and this year. Beat Desert View last year 44-20. This year beat valley View 62-18.Hornedo eight the same two years. Both feed Franklin Coranado.

yea but where are the mighty cougars and t-birds next weekend?? at home

What does that have to do with the post? We go around and around in here. Topic Middle school programs that follow the High school programs. P.S not Flag. I like flag football but this is eleven man programs.

Flag football? No wonder why the kids going to Cathedral are no good, they are playing flag football.

HULKSTER Wrote:
Re: middle school success

WELL YOU TALK ALOT BUT AFRAID TO PLAY MY BOYS AT GOOD OL SAN ELI MIDDLE IF YOU WANT A CHALLENGE THEN CALL THE DISTRICT TO PLAY A REG SEASON GAME AND WELL GO FROM THERE. LOOK NOT NEW TO COACHING BUT NEW TO THE SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY WE HAVE MADE ARRANGEMANTS TO BE @THE CITY CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR SO DONT SING IT BRING EAGLE PRIDE !!!

Hulkster did you figure it out this year? It all doesn't mean squat if you can't keep you players on the passing side of their report cards. You can have the best team.....until the first six weeks hit and then... Better luck next year, work on your school work and maybe you will have more success. Keep them on the passing side so the games can be competitive and have meaning

furr real.
its all about slider.
;]

Canutillo= city champs both 8th and 7th grade get real boys!

hillcrest and valleyview are good now? i played for camino real back in the late 90's into the 2000's and we dominated both teams. i always thought ranchland was way better than hillcrest though we beat them too. i remember beating down riverside middle too, but losing to socorro and eastwood middle schools. my have times changed....

I thought Brown 7th and 8th graders won district. Can someone clear it up for me. Thanks.

They did Brown played Valley View won 62-18. Hornedo won agains Riverside don't know the score.

Wiggs has the talent to win every year but they don't get over that hump? What's going on? This yaer both teams should have won division and city.

Hell yeah valley view is good now! Hillcrest had dominated for a while but not the past 2 years. Every year it seems like valley view had been 1 win away their 7th grade team finally did it! They got rocked in the city championship but those boys are good. They were missing their star player for the championship game but another kid played just as good. Watch out for this team if they stay together all their way to varsity for del valle. This team is the real deal

Agree that running back is very fast. Good luck next year always good to see what is coming up for the high schools.

all of uu guys are wrong!.
it's all about LINCOLN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
max flores, alex ledezma, a.j sedillo nd alfredo iglesias are the best football players.
they are going to become legends.
nd they actually beat hornedo this year but they
had to do that stupid "coin flip".
but all of uu know hornedo lost nd lincoln won!!!

LMS WARRIORS (:

riverside is always good in middle school haveyou seen peter carrons brother not john but i think his name is matt man he is scary good thatboy runs over those kids watch out for him

I know when lincon was seventh grade Brown beat them 44-22 no coin flip. Lincon should of been beaten by hornedo different coaches. Wow, and the way that team acted lincon showed a lack respect for the game.

you are wrong!
lincoln still is better then hornedo and brown.
and last years. .
yeah brown cheated.
the refs got payed.
so you can't say anything about that.

i was actually at that brown lincoln game this past season. Brown dominated them pretty bad. It didn't look like the refs got payed. No excuses brown was better than lincoln this past season

dont forget riverside beat lincoln two years ago when i was a 7th grader and lost to hornedo due to some payed refs

Wow i would've given props to riverside had it not been for the "paid refs" comment.

Lincoln shut out riverside the two years I was there. 32-0 and 46-0.

Brown is indestructible though.

all tell you this much man. That Valley View team is pretty good than they showed. Yes brown did destroy them. But with a summer of growing those kids are going to turn to monsters they were very good and had more than one good player. I think this team is going to be scary good next year if they all stay together. Its time for the yisd to take the championships over episd.

Bassett kids are tough, and if they go to Chapin... wow it's gonna get exciting!!!!!

DONT TELL ME THAT HILLCREST HAS BEEN DOMINANT CAUSE CAMINO REal has been the dominant school in the last three years... talking about that group of kids that went to the city championship in 7th grade and 8th grade and won lst years city championship demolishing wiggs 38-8 i believe and not including this years 8th grade team that went to the cty championship but lost.. still a good team.... props.. so dont be bringing up hillcrest!! is all about CAMINO!!!!

I know Canutillo's won this years 7th and 8th grade Championships.

CRY; That is a good name for you since that is what you are doing don't bash a good power house program. Let's let the facts speak for themselves these are straight from the school if you want go see the banners in the building:
1999- 7th grade 1st ever district champions
2000- 8th grade division 2 champions
2001- 7th grade division 2 and district champions
2003- 7th grade division 2 champions
2003- 8th grade division 2 champions
2004- 7th grade division 2 and district champions
2004- 8th grade division 2 champions
2005- 7th grade division 2 champions and 1st ever city champions.
2005- 8th grade division 2 champions and 1st ever city champions.

*1999- was the first time yisd had a district championship Hillcrest won...
*2005- was the first time different districts got in the mix to create a city championship; there are 3 divisions Hillcrest won both 7th and 8th division 2 city championships in it's first year...

Camino Real has only won 1 district championship and 1 city championship you can not compare Camino to Hillcrest. Get your facts straight before you open your mouth. If you don't believe call Athletics at Central office they have all these records....

HEY VIKINGS,

***One more thing to add to the 1999 Hillcrest 7th grade season, that team went undefeated and NO TEAM scored any points on them!!! If I recall they were even recognized by Mack Brown the UT Coach in a letter!!!

Enough Said!!!!

SURE THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD CONSISTENTLY BUT I THINK YOU MISSED THE PART WHERE I SAID LAST 2-3YEARS VIKING!! NOT 4-5 yrs ago!!!! read it right before YOU open your mouth!!!!!

Ya camino has been the best middle school so far

OMG are you seriously arguing about middle schools. Ha Ha Last time i checked its all about Varsity and since hillcrest feeds bel air and camino feeds ysleta all those championships dont mean diddly squat sinc neither one of those schools wwins at the varsity level. Lets talk Varsity football. here are Ep's winning programs
Montwood
franklin
canutillo
del valle
riverside
chapin
austin(as of lately)
coronado
parkland
and andress. nuff said

Camino the best? I think if camino was playing in the big division with desert view parkland valley view riverside eastwood the best they would finish would be 4th maybe 3rd.

CRY, CRY, CRY...

That's all you are doing Hillcrest won Division 2 this year again and made the championship game this year in the 7th grade. What I am saying is you can't compare Camino to Hillcrest. Hillcrest is way ahead of Camino. The only reason Hillcrest has been struggling a little bit the past couple of years is because there great coaching staff has left. Once everything settles down again, Hillcrest will dominate as always!!!! So before you open YOUR MOUTH know the difference in tradition between an established one and a wanna be....Hillcrest has been around for a long time!

hillcrest will get 2nd or 3rd in the big division also.

wow im really intimadated by the way you use my name against me... really mature.. and you dont have to blame the coaching staff... the way i see it camino would have dominated hillcrest with these group of kids.. good coaching staff or not.. so YOU SHOULDNT OPEN YOUR MOUTH VIKING!!! DONT BE MAD JUST HILLCREST ISNT ON TOP ANYMORE!! AND TRADITIONS DONT MEAN A THING!! THEY DONT DETERMINE IF A SCHOOL IS GOOD OR NOT !!!!

Yes, this is a site based on football. No, not just varsity. Remember varsity programs come from good foundations made at the middle schools. Traidation plays a big part in that.What you teach at the middle school should be taught at the high school. Some how the past post got lost in what this was about. Good luck to all high school and middle schools in developing the best this city has to offer.

Middle school football players are important because they will soon end up playing in the varsity level.

Camino is the bad ass football team in all el paso bby!!!!!!!

they cant hang with the big divisions though

CRY, CRY, CRY

Camino will never be like Hillcrest. If you go head to head Hillcrest has BEAT Camino more times than Camino has beat Hillcrest. Tradition does matter unfortunately you don't have a clue because Camino doesn't have any. Like I mentioned before look at the stats and records and head to head battles Hillcrest dominates every category over Camino. Tradition does matter ask Montwood, Franklin and all the dominate High Schools they will tell you it does. You get used to being dominate which leads to TRADITION. You were the one that wanted to compare Hillcrest and Camino, you can't. Camino has a long, long, long way to go. It's like comparing the Steelers to the Panthers. An established winning program to one that is barely starting...and if you did not know the Steelers do have TRADITION... and for the record back when YISD only had a District Championship between Division 1 and Division 2 Hillcrest did beat Division 1 Schools in the championship (Eastwood Middle and Riverside Middle). So Division 2 schools can compete with Division 1 Schools....

Really who cares. I havent read anything in the paper about either school. When I pick up the morning times all I read about is Varsity scores, stats, games, records. When they start printing middle school stats I'll pay attention.Now a real discussuion would be....Where are those players going and what are they doing with that so called tradition?

Read the subject in this blog. It's called middle school success if you want to read or know about Varsity go to the other subjects. This is to give middle schools their props....

georgia-pacific who freaking cares about the sports section in the paper. If people want to talk about the schools on this board or any board throughout the internet then that is what matters.

People typing their opinions matters more than what some person writes in the sports section of a paper.

It's the internet super highway and the old ways like newspapers are prehistoric. Soon there will no more paper and everything will be digital or HD.

georgia-pacific get with the program and talk about something you want to talk about on this board or some other board instead of waiting to see what some person from a paper writes about in order to talk about.

georgia-pacific with the internet and all the blogs that exist every person is actually an editor in his own right.

Viking... can you stop talking about the past? Im talking about the future not the past. In the past Hillcrest was the dominant school I must admit. But they're not right now! Camino is! So please stop bringing up the past! You just dont get it! And if tradition does matter, then Camino is taking it away from Hillcrest.. Sorry VIKING #1... Im done arguing..

you guys should both stop arguing neither team from camino or hillcrest wouldve done anything this year in division 1. The level of competetion is not that good over in div2. I've been to games of both divisions and div 1 seems more competive. I event heard eastwood knolls didnt even have a 7th or 8th grade team not sure which one. Ranchland has maybe like 25 kids between both programs. Once again camino or hillcrest wouldce of been 4th or 5th place if they played div 1 teams

Cry, I'm glad you are done arguing because you were the one trying to compare Hillcrest to Camino.If you want to say Camino is better right now that's your opnion, but if you want to compare the two that's a different story. I'm glad that you have finally admitted to Hillcrest being more dominant as a program. When you compare both it's from the past to now. Camino doesn't come close. Camino might be coming up a little bit, but has a long, long, long way to go to catch up to Hillcrest and it's tradition. Take baby steps cry. First find out what tradition means since you did not know what it meant, and now all of a sudden you are saying you are going to take it away from Hillcrest ha, ha, ha...You can't take that away it has been set for many, many years something Camino doesn't have. If you say Camino is doing good right know, what have they done? Wait a couple of years to see if they continue then open your mouth til then keep it shut like you promised....

Hey fan just to let you know Division 1 schools play Division 2 schools during the year. Hillcrest 7th grade did beat a Division 1 school this year and like I said before Division 2 schools have beaten Division 1 schools. Hillcrest beat two of them back when they only had a District Championship. You mentioned numbers, that is true Division 2 schools are smaller in numbers than Division 1 schools, but they can still compete with them. Watch for it next year, I think it's the 1st or 2nd game of the year when Division 1 and 2 play each other and you will see that the games are pretty close.

GO Vv. Vally view has simply got the best feeder program

Vikings#1, have you thought about changing your name to #2?

Brown is clearly #1 :)

Agree last two years ave 44 points a game allowed 3. Two city championships. Before that the coaches were at Hornedo. From what I see they might go back to Hornedo next year. The principal was not happy with the staff at HMS.

I know the numbers are lower. If you take this past football season both camino and hillcrest couldnt of hung with the big division. Hill crest is just as big as the division 1 numbers. Hillcrest and camino both have good programs but this year the level of competition in div 1 was way higher

The reason Hillcrest has gone down the past 3 years is because Coach Nunez and his coaching staff are not there anymore. Coach Fernandez is the new head coach and he stinks he has taken the program down BIG TIME. He is one sorry coach. I hope they get somebody else, because Hillcrest always has talent. So fan you are probably right that they couldn't compete against Div 1 schools this year, but coaching has alot to do with it I'm sure you will agree. Middle School is where they mold the kids and with a sorry coach like Coach Fernandez it brings down everything and affects the feeder school.

I agree with you because these young kids do need a coach who can motivate them. Their are a couple of sleepers who are not that good in middle school and eventually turn into studs in high school. But it all starts in the middle school and yes a good coach is needed to keep these young kids head straight

Time to clean the house at Hillcrest. Tradition was laid down by Nunez and staff and that is no longer the case. THings have changed and they are not looking good for the vikings

Parland middle parkland high DUH!

Desert View Middleis very good

Desert view had a good program for 2 years but. They won district as 7th graders but couldnt beat riverside as eight graders. Their 7th grade was not very good this year. For the past years desert view has benn in the middle of the pack but was only top dog one year.. They do work very close with the high school though. But as far as wins and loses they either had a loosing season or have been 500.

Is hillcrest still producing great players? If so why is the Bel Air varsity still struggling to win games?

They should be, but the new head coach (Coach Fernandez) stinks...He does not know what he is doing. Ever since Coach Nunez and Coach Flores left Hillcrest the proud winning tradition they had has gone down. Coach Fernandez should stick to coaching softball...He is not a football COACH!!!!!!

Viking my friend that is the problem with many coaches out there. Only because they love and know the game of football does not necessarily mean they can coach it.

My wife loves and knows how to cook good food but there is no way in hell she can instruct a classroom with over 30 potential chefs much less have her own cooking show. Oh don't get me wrong I believe in her but when it comes to criticism about her cooking she will chew your head off and spit it out like freaking Ozzy Osborne. Tell her she put a bit to much salt on her lasagna, you best run and hide.

My friend there is a huge difference between loving and knowing something, to teaching and instructing something. People out there need to distinguish that and stop being in denial.

In other words people need to stop lying to themselves and be honest with themselves.