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Re: Re: Re: Sept 17th 2004

Hey Dragoni -- Truth hurts don't it? HAHAHA - The Fact is the North Vietnam Museum has Kerry (as well as Hanoi Jane) on their Hero Wall for changing our public will to continue - Not only did I fight in VN - But I remember Skerry lying on the Dick Cavet Show about all the war crimes he couldn't prove - All he just made himself a political career off the Blood on the Wall - But us old Southern know the Truth - Hey, Whose Medals did he throw away? His or someone elses? I've heard him say about 3 different versions of it? Oh, Also he said that ribbons and Medals are interchangeable?? Anyone who served knows that's BS -
Or do U??

Hey Jim; Re: Re: Re: Re: Sept 17th 2004

Only the propaganda you to deem as fact hurts.
And so you, like your ilk have a tendency
to do, desire to propagate the propaganda
of a nation such as North Vietnam when it
serves your own twisted purposes. The
N.V. Museum also lists as fact atrocities
supposedly committed by Americans during
the war. That these atrocities, such as the
eating of Vietmanese babies, etc. where a
common tactic of the "evil American invaders".
I suppose we are to take all of these
accusations as fact? I don't. But if we are
to believe one set of propaganda, why not all?
That is because it is just that, PROPAGANDA!!!
And your spreading of that propaganda for your
own political reasons makes you a sorry man
indeed.

I was a Security Specialist, USAF, Nam 70-71. My
brother just retired as a Major JAG Officer in the
Navy. And yes ribbons and Medals ARE
interchangable. They both are representative
of each other. Anyone who served and doesn't know
that is full of BS. Or are you still getting your
info from the North Vietmanese?

Re: Hey Jim; Re: Re: Re: Re: Sept 17th 2004

OH -- so you were on an Air Base in VN ?? I went to one once - thought I was back in the world

Re: Re: Hey Jim; Re: Re: Re: Re: Sept 17th 2004

Every man's service is worthy and no true brother would ever denigrate another's service. You sir, are a disgrace for doing so.

By the way, I was a platoon leader with B 2/1Inf, 196th Inf. Bde.

Hey Jim; Re: Re: Re: Re: Sept 17th 2004

So now you denigrate MY service to my
country because I was in the Air Force
during Nam. You are just a sad little man.
I served, I served well. I recieved a
Purple Heart when a sniper tried picking
me off. But of course, I probably got it
only because I wanted out of the service,
as is accused of John Kerry. What service
medals did you get? Not that it matters. What
matters is who had to blow to get 'em huh?

This is exactly why I stated before that when
you denigrate someone elses service/medals, you
leave everyone open to defamation.

And you have the balls to put this coward of
a President on a pedestal with his record,
and at the same time dog others that were
there... sounds like you deserve at least one
medal. The same one that the Vet bashers should
get that denigrated Max Cleland in order to put
that bi**h Saxby Chandliss into office. The
Medal should be called, "Traitor to Their Own".
Be proud! Maybe Bush will pin it on you himself!
You'll be in good company.

Re Medals to Harry

OK Harry -- If you really want know: Purple Heart, 3 Bronze Stars for Valor, 2 Legions of Merit, Air Medal, Combat Infantryman's badge, Ranger Tab, Master Parachutis Badge, numerous campaign ribbons, Service and Foreign Awards - served with 173d Abn Bde (Airborne Infantry) and N Co 75 Rangers in VN (68-69) - Was orginal 1SG B Co when we formed the 3d Ranger Bn in 84 - retired as Command Sergeant Major upon return from Operation Uphold Democracy Hati -- And the answer is No, I didn't throw my Medals (or Ribbons) over a Fence -- Nor did I come back from VN and disgrace my Brothers by lying about War Crimes I didn't witness - When Cally went on trial for My Lia - I said (at the time) not only should he be found guilty - but his PSG and NCO's as well for not stopping "following an unlawfull order" -- The same type stuff that happened in Ab gau Prision in Iraq - I believe in the Christan God (not "Allah") and I've been riding Harleys since 1969 (and currently have a 2003 100th Anniversary all Black Harley Road King - I support all Veterans Groups, and Ride for those who can't -- I'm tired of all the Bush Bashing here and after this message I'm not posting anymore -- I was not making light of your service in the Air Force - I didn't call you a "REMF" -- Service is Service -- Some put you more in Harms way than others -- I happen to agree with the 60's James Brown Song -- "Let a Man be a Man and a Women be a Women" -- All I said was I did visit an Air Force Base once in Phut Cat ( I believe) and it was like I had went back in the world -- Ask any "Boonie Rat" (Infantry) Where were these folks when the Tratior Clinton was President -- If he would have stood up and told us he chicken **** and tried everything he could not to go to VN - I'd have no problem with that -- but then to find out he lied and went so far as to Lead Protest in England while stuyding to become a Rhoads Scholar did it for me ! I could care less about Monica -- I want to see him and Les Aspin (now dead) answer to the Rangers as to why they refused to give them Armor in Somalia -- By the way that was my Co - B Co 3d Ranger Bn that you saw in "Black Hawk Down" -- By Clinton pulling us out of Somalia boosted the Muslim Terroist making them think they could win - If Clinton would have taking out Bin Laden when he had the shot we may not be in the mess we're in today -- but who knows -- I fault Rumsfeld in extending our Soldiers fighting in Iraq and now stop loss - this destroys moral of not only our Soldiers but their families as well -- the Service reenlist familes - not individuals -- Now - I've said all I'm going to say - Quit sending me propaganda about how Kerry is a Great Hero and we all should be so lucky to have him as our next Cdr in Chief -- cause you sure as Hell will not change my mind about Him nor "Hanoi Jane"
We never lost a major battle in VN - but through the anti-war activities back home they destroyed the public will -- and Kerry as well as Kennedy is back to slinging that VN word around again to the point Sadhr in Iraq is using it --- I'm sure I won't change your mind about Bush -- Do I think NG service during VN was a "Cop Out"? Sure, I also think we should have activted the Guard during VN and who knows the outcome But like I said earlier -- Every type Service should be respected and Honored, but today our Reserves are spending as much if not more time in the Combat Zones as our active Duty
I'm finished now -- I will not be wasting my time on this BS - Like Toby Keith sings - Time to put my Bike on the Highway
"Move Out and Draw Fire!"
Ranger Lead The Way
Out

Re:Jim, Re Medals to Harry

I'm glad to hear you was such a wonderful
hero in Nam, yadda, yadda. I'll give you
as much respect for your service as you
gave to me. And if your comment below wasn't
a put-down of my service, what was the
purpose? You owe an apology to everyone
you've ever dogged for not living up to
your bogus standards in the military.
I'm quite sure I wasn't the first.;

From CSM (Ret.) Jim Fowler:"OH -- so you
were on an Air Base in VN ?? I
went to one once - thought I was back in
the world"

So I repeat concerning your "supposed medals":
Not that it matters. What matters is who you
had to blow to get 'em huh?

This is exactly why I stated before that when
you denigrate someone elses service/medals, you
leave everyone open to defamation, particularly yourself.

And you have the balls to put this coward of
a President on a pedestal with his record,
and at the same time dog others that were
there... sounds like you deserve at least one
medal. The same one that the Vet bashers should
get that denigrated Max Cleland in order to put
that bi**h Saxby Chandliss into office. The
Medal should be called, "Traitor to Their Own".
Be proud! Maybe Bush will pin it on you himself!
You'll be in good company.

Re: Re Medals to Harry

Jim, My hat goes off to you Sir, you were in the "****" hip deep....! AIRBORNE/AIR ASSAULT ALL THE WAY..!!

Re: Hey Jim; Re: Re: Re: Re: Sept 17th 2004

"I served, I served well. I recieved a
Purple Heart when a sniper tried picking
me off."

My only regret of the Vietnam war now is that they didn't train their snipers better........

Re: Hey Jim; Re: Re: Re: Re: Sept 17th 2004

"The
Medal should be called, "Traitor to Their Own"."

I think John F. Kerry got that one already.....!

Re: Re: Re Medals to Harry

Thank You for your service too "Fireboss"
May God Bless you Brother
"AIRBORNE"-
Jim

Re: Re: Hey Jim; Re: Re: Re: Re: Sept 17th 2004

HOOAH!! I agree "Fireboss"

Hey Jim & Fireboss; Re: Re: Re: Re: Sept 17th 2004

Yep, you're a real patroit. Thanks for
proving my point.

Maybe after you and Fireboss finish
"strokin'" each other off,
you two can get together and make-up...
I mean trade some more storys.

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