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LETS GET IT STARTED

Its early lets get some mfl vs. ifl games scheduled during the pre-season to see what league is better top to bottom! Shamrocks show on thier website that they are goin to fortwayne to play the cards, any other teams out there got confidence in thier squads to throw some challenges out there?

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Patriots @ Generals! Nuff said!

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The Generals are scrubs. The Pirates D would shut them out. We had the best D in the MFL last year in the south. I see them taking a cake preseason game probably with the Stampede or affliction. Beat up on a half a$$ team. And dont go saying that Im not a pirates becuase I am. Im not putting my name becuase I don't want JJ calling me and crying like he does sometimes.

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That the Pirates have refused to play the Generals this year due to reasons that won't be disclosed on this board. Ante up and play.

Cutters vs Bearcats or Pirates would be fun

Patriots vs. Mustangs
Patriots vs Generals
Chicago Thunder vs Tornados

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Last time I checked The Stampede held your team to 6 bullshit points that the refs gave you. Don't try to say you had a better D then the Stampede.

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Pirates.. If you had the best d in the league, you sure did have a big fat lose against the Bearcats twice, stampede, and Pats... Come on now. You are all a joke. You make a youtube vid of ur team but sure do leave out all the pain you all inflicted during the season. face it, u guys are really runnin ur mouth already. Can't wait to smash you on the field.

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For the record, the Pirates have not refused to play the Generals, or the Tornados, or anyone else. What I have said is that we cannot commit to any more preseason games until we have our league meeting, as we have been asked to host any possible all-star game or league jamboree. Once this is decided, we will move forward on finishing our preseason schedule.

As with all scheduling of events for the Pirates, the teams we will end up playing will be selected based on our team's board decision through discussion and voting.

10 out of the 11 players are returning on the Pirates Defense and they will be complemented with some new additions to the team. Last Year's performance was good, and many times great. Our defense sealed two 21 point comebacks in the 4th quarter this season and yes that is worth bragging about, but our team painfully knows, your defense can't score all points and win the game. We were weak on the offense side of the ball in many of our games and that is something we have addressed during the off-season and will be our many focus during pre-season. February is starting and like most of us here in Supaland, I am already ichin at getting out there and start playing again.

Best of Luck to Everyone,

~JJ

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bull shit jj, your scraed to death of jt. marshall bowman himself told me he asked you about playing generals pre season and you refused. so dont come on here trying to act hard. your a scrub and the wrost damn player on your team, the offense all starts with the center. take a look in the mirror.

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i myself would love to see the generals play the patriots. i know the pats won the game last year by about two touchdowns? (could def be wrong) but i also know that the generals only traveled with about 20 guys. i think it would def be a good pre season game with a full generals roster. and lets face it, the pats are ranked what, top ten in the country? should they be dodging anyone that challenges them?

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JJ you don't have to respond to any of this. This is silly men who have nothing better to do than try to start crap on a site. The Pirates had a better record then the Generals last year any ways. The Pats are the best team in Indiana hands down. there is not a team in Indiana they should play becuase they have beat them all. Why are we talking about the lowly Generals anyway. Every year they are 4-4 at best and get beat in the playoffs. Why are we not talking about a real team that has a shot at beating the Pats like the Mustangs or tornados. Outside of those two teams no one should bring up a team for them to play.
Here is a thought shut up and take care of you and your team.

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PLEASE SOMEONE FROM THE PATRIOTS GET IN CONTACT WITH ME VIA E-MAIL. WE WOULD LOVE TO SCHEDULE A PRE-SEASON GAME.

GRANT CAMERON
CO-OWNER/INDIANAPOLIS TORNADOS
2008 NATIONAL CHAMPS

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IN ORDER TO DO THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY NEED MY E-MAIL
GCLB51@YAHOO.COM

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The Tornados won the NAFL championship not the national championship.

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I,m sorry the TORNADOS won the only true National Championship. You know the only one with a playoff structure that stretches from coast to coast from a league(NAFL) which has over 100 teams. You can keep your one game paper championships. SHUT-UP and step your game up.

2008 National Champions enough said!

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grant werent you a backup on the generals and the cutters(the first year before they got good linebackers). you shut up, your sad and the only reason you play is cause you own the team

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First of all (fan) quit being a coward and introduce yourself. Secondly my resume reads
01-02 Generals (Team MVP)
03-04 Tornados (LB - did back up D2 all american Tony Rubio. You got me.)
05 - Tornados(NAFL)MLB
06 - Hurricanes(NAFL) DE
06 - Ft. Wayne Fusion(AFL2)FB/Mack
07 - Bloomington Extreme(UIFL)LB
08 - Tornados(NAFL)MLB (oh I forgot only played cause I owned the team )

my post meant no disrespect, just trying to get a solid pre-season schedule. But some of yall need to check yourselves.

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ok grant were you ever not a part of the cutters in the first season they were around? forgetting about all of that, i know the tornadoes are the best team in the state. anyone who actually beleives the pats could hang is an idiot. skill position alot of teams could hang with them(except for mo virgill) but it doesnt matter because any other teams biggest lineman is maybe the same size as one of the tornadoes lineman, maybe. the entire line played big ten football. stop kidding yourselves thinking you could be this team. like he said they just won a league with over 100 teams. has anyone looked at the top 50 list of the country??? about 20 of them are from the nafl and the tornadoes won that league. the mid ohip jets would not stand a chance, maybe just maybe the thunder would give them a game. ill also say that the pats are the second best team in the state but its night and day between them and the tornadoes. pats and mustangs would be good game, pats and cutters would be a good game.

oh and all the talk about how good the nafl is, well its true. dont get me wrong, there are sorry teams in the league ie: indiana warriors who would loose to the top two or three teams in the ifl or mfl but they are a rare exception and thats mostly because of how bad they are run. and lets not forget about the indiana mustangs who have been around in indiana longer than any other team. they would surely play anyone and i could only see one team(tornadoes) and possibly another team beating them. lets not forget the mustangs whopped up on the pats two years ago(wayne had to turn it into a "controlled scrimmage" that way it would not effect his standings.

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Patriots tornadoes, would be a good game, but will wayne take a game like that? Looks like the tornadoes are game to play, now patriots balls in ur court will u guys duck them?

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I feel so much smarter now.

If you have to say it...

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The Affliction V.S the stampede that would be a good game .... ( the X- Stampede Players) AFFLICTION 28- 14 Stampede

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I guess someone else should start running this team. My name has been mentioned twice in the last three posts. The Mustangs beat us 7-2 two years ago you f'n moron, that's hardly whoopin up on anybody. Jim Stamper will back up the fact that when we played the Mustangs the past two years that the games were set up to be controlled scrimmages, but I won't introduce facts or logic as they would only confuse you and the issue.
Until any of you make the decisions for the Patriots, Tornados, Cutters, etc, just shut the hell up. Just because someone gets on here annonymously and says two teams should play each other because they think it would be a good game, doesn't mean that we are going to drop everything just because your simple little mind wants to make it so. I mean hell, every one of you says the Tornados are the better team, that seems to be the concensus of opinion, so I guess majority rules, the Tornados are the best team, we don't even need to play the game.
WHO CARES. It's February, we still have 5 damn months before our season starts, let's just get through the rest of the winter and see what happens. What, the NFL is done so you have nothing better to do now than start stirring the shit on this site? Go back and visit your little porn sites or whatever the hell you do and leave my name out your damn mouth and out of your lame ass posts!!!

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good post wayne and all true but dont start acting hard either because you know for damn surey ou would never talk to anyone in person that way. its good to get out your point but do so in a demeanor that suits you, not as a tough guy cause sorry to say, tough you are not. good luck to the pats this year, maybe you will actually play somebody worth a challenge, not all the mfl bums. your last worthy win was the dragons. PLAY SOMEBODY

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"fan" if thats what you really are. INTRO?
You are correct I was contacted by my friend J-Mack to come and play for the cutters in 07, but 2 practices and 1 game later, after we played a team with 18 players and T-shirts for jerseys, I just couldn't do it. Love the organization, in fact if you remember I donated 50 pairs of shoulder pads to the cutters.After leaving I went on to play with the Kane County Eagles to win my first national championship. Judge me as you will, but get your facts straight.

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correction, the last game with the Dragons wasn't even a good one. The game before that when the Cutters came to town was one of the best I've ever been a part of. The Dragons played better in the 07 'ship when they held on to win that one over us 23-20. We had to come from behind twice in '08 in the last 2 minutes of games against the Blitz and the Cardinals (who loaded up) to win. The Bearcats had us down in the ship in '08 before we were finally able to take the lead in that one. Oh yeah, let's not forget the 07 Natty when the Knights had to cheat with 60+ man roster to finally take a lead with about 6 minutes to go. But they got caught and got what they deserved. The Dragons are gone, and not comin back get over it. The writing was on the wall for that team when they satrted gettin beat and couldn't hold it together long enough to finish the ship with half the team still on the sideline. I'm so tired of hearin about them and how great they were. Where are they now??????

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Oh... I almost forgot.
You're probably right, I wouldn't talk like that to anyone. I don't think I would need to as most of the people I have to deal with face-to-face wouldn't say the shit that some of you idiots post on here.

It's a respect thing. Learn about it.

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Fuck you wayne wolf. You want to talk shit and run your fucking mouth. Lets put the fact on the table bitch. We had two guys get mad and walk off in the second quarter. Both was on the oline. We had a few guys that was hurt on the line already. The fight that heppend at the end of the game was due to one guy talking shit to your players on the field and one of our guys try to make them stop. You and Earl have been sucking and fucking each other for only god knows how long and the refs gave you that game bitch.
Not one fucking Dragon player has got on here and said shit to you but for some reason you want to run your mouth. I will come to you and beat your fucking ass. You always on here saying its just a game then try to pull some shit like that. Stop being a pussy ass bitch and play the Tornados. Oh wait thats right you will come back with some lame shit like we just cant due to blah what ever.
I fight for the LIFC 19-0 you think you bad ass lets set it up you and me in the cage!

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Get over your damn self. You got beat that game the refs didn't have a damn thing to do with it. How many kicks/punts did you get blocked that night? Is that because your O-line players were hurt and couldn't block? 32-7 was the final score, our offense put up 1 score, the Defense and special teams did the rest. Your points came off of a fumble return for a td. You BARELY beat us in the ship the year before. You weren't as good as y'all try to play it up.
You playin for the T-nados? if not, you shut the f@#$ up and quit tryin to stir the shit. I could give a shit less about your MMA record or whatever your braggin about. Why you want to make it personal? I didn't call you out, hell I don't even know who you are. I guess that was how much you mattered that game. The F'n Cutters were a better team than y'all were and you got lucky to beat them.
I'll say it again, the Dragons folded...LAST YEAR... their players have moved on, you should too.

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I'm 21-0 in the USMC bitch! haha

What's your record?

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Oh Yeah, I once bonged six beers, and then went to Charlie Browns and ate 15 pancakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Big deal I beat myself all the time.

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Wayne, we loaded up?

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I still say that the Stampede vs Patriots would have been a better ship last year. The cards took the Pats to the wire both games but yet the Pede spanked them 30-0. Go ahead make your comments about how the Pede lost to the Bearcats but when you have 5 refs that went to the high school in Evansville (none over the age of 25)and 2 of them were in the celebration huddle after the game, they stood no chance.

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Wayne the loaded up statement was a cheap shot at our organization, we had the same cats on our team from begining to end. It was a good game yall came out on top and thats that. Lets not get into a back and forth thing and the season hasn't started yet!

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Thats what wayne does. He try to call other teams out and acts like his squad is so perfect.

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When did the stampede play the cardinals? There were a North team and the stampede were a south team. We had the crossover game with the cards twice and split the outcome. The cardinals were a good team with a lot to build on. They did seem a bit inconsistent from game to game but that probably had more to do with missing players than anything else.

Wayne if you think the Cards "loaded up" then support a change to the roster rule.

Stampede, I dealt with the same refs you did. I did make a post about how they were chatting with the Evansville players before the game. I even had to take time out of my team's warm up to go over all the rules with them because they weren't clear what they were!? The blame shouldn't be fully placed on the bearcats however as they had to supply their own refs or not have any refs for their home game at all. This is another topic I wish the league to revisit as well.

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Ok,I have to say that the cards the second game did add a few freedom players and I think a few other guys to. The cardinals were definetly good the second time we played and probably I would say our hardest game all year. As far as you guys adding to roster you did I got film to prove it. There was a difference the second game I would know I called the defense both games! We never have claimed to be a perfect squad, and will probably never be a perfect squad and things change every year in semi-pro! The fact is that the patriots are a good fuckin team and have had a good run. Whether or not it will continue, we will see? Goodluck to all teams, and I hope we all get to play eachother at some point. Goodluck

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OK yes we did play the Cards in the playoffs and the score was 37-0. I wasnt at the game against the Bearcats so I dont know how things went down I heard alot. But regardless I hear it was a tough fought game as was the other two games against the Bearcats.Good luck this coming season to the Pede hope to see the Cats on the field this year against the Affliction.

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I have been reading this post, and honestly, the cursing and bad talk between some of the vets and others on here has really gotten out of hand. I am fully aware that many will get offended at me saying this, but honestly, there is no need for all this goin on.

We play the games because we love it..but honestly, not many on here seem to seem as they do. I am also one of the few on here that truth be told, have been around winning NATIONAL championships ( 2 total, 6 league) before most of you were learing fractions )and I never had to curse anyone out or degrade another player, team or coach to do it.

I hate to do the "Rodney King" thing here, but seriously...is it really necessary to cuss someone out and threaten another player and say he, his team or org. sucks because of no other reason than you don't like him?

Yes, I come with the premise of God on my heart here, but I'm not a pastor and it's more than that.

Eventually, all of us will be off the field and participating in after football life and would rather look across a restaraunt, see one of us and even though you probably tried to knock the head off of the guy years earlier, you respect one another enought to walk by and nod hello..and our kids will be proud of us as we do it..and learn from us when its thier turn.

If you want, you can attack what I am saying and me personally all you like..I'd rather see that than you on here just berating each other post after post.

It says so much more about you to say something good about an opposing team or player - or even more..say nothing when something is said about you.

Truth be told, if someone is lying about you, your true friends and family will not neeed you to retell that its not true.

Neither does God.

Supa always says 'Make your mommas proud" on game day... I challenge you to this..after you write each post..see if that still applies..

Thank you.

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Wow look at that. JJ put in his 2 cents on something that dont involve him and once again his statements were WRONG.

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Yeah, we did play the stampede in the playoffs and they got the best of us, very good running back! We where a very inconsistent team do to missin players so the two freedom players we had was a hit and miss situation, but they were on our roster from the get go. So, once again patriots i ask you not to downgrade our organization and i to am in favor of moving up our roster deadline so teams cant stack up for a certain game!

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Ok lets put this to rest. In 2006 we played the Patriots at their place about mid-season.These are just the facts. We won that game 21-10. Both teams was still finding out what they was made of. The last game of the season the Blitz beat the Pats by a score of 35-12 or something like that. We played the Blitz in the game before the championship and they was a better team then the Pats in 2006 our team thought. We won that game 28-6. I am in not making a excuse just telling the facts. Our Starting QB riped his MCL and PCL in the game with the Blitz. Our back up came in and Broke his throwing hand in that game as well. You can ask anyone that played us we was a passing team. With both QB's hurt it changed our scheme for the championship game. Thats football I know. We won 23-20.
As for our 2007 team we beat - the three time ifl champions 7-6.
We beat the Gladiators MOFL undefeated league runner ups 35-14.
We beat the Cutters 27-14.
We beat the cutters 27-26.
We beat a very good Shamrock team that took it to teams in the midstates 20-13.
I take 100 % blame for the 2007 championship game.
I had our guys thinking ahead to the nation ship.
I knew the pats was a good team but I thought we could beat them.
We beat them twice before why can't we do it agian right. hell I was young and cocky I was 25 years old hell i know everything right. I got out coached and let my ego get in the way. I did not care about key guys being hurt. Bottom line we fell on our asses. We had all the talent but no heart. As for the two linemen that walked off in the second quarter, they did not like that some players thought that the line should be doing a better job and they left. The Fight at the end of the game was between a guy that did not care about anyone but himself and a guys that was a true DRAGON! We did finish the game and the players that had heart and respect for the game meet up in the middle of the field with the pats after the game.
As for where are the Dragons now, the real Dragons are playing for me with the Generals. The team was going to get back together but the generals made a great offer and we took it. Due to work and family I just did not the time to do all the stuff that a owner has to do.
Now you said that we was not as good as we played it up to, We beat every team that you did and then some so that means that you guys are not that good either.
Im not saying any of this in a bad way.
We all know that just becuase you loss to one team or beat one team does not mean that you can beat another team.
The Dragons are gone and im ok with that i have moved on. But I do know that we beat some good teams and played some fun football. I meet some great guys and made some life long friends.
For a team that people said was not going to make it to the reagual season in 2006. I think two 24 year old guys did all right. We made some mistakes but hey who doesnt.
29-3 over all record one championship and on league runner up hell I will take that any day.

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WOW i though JT would of went off. Way to handle yourself with calss.

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Good words coach!

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I figured this one would pull JT out of the wood work.
Great comments, don't take it as a personal attack, because it wasn't. We did have fun when we played you all three times. They were good games indeed, but the point of my post was to shut some annonymous fool up who said the last real game we played was the 07 ship. I'm tired, as I'm sure you are as well, of peeps talkin about a team that isn't even around anymore. I mean the Allen Co X plosion won the MFL the first two years, we all remember them, but people gave up talkin about them shortly after they folded. Same way with the Bulldogs, the Vipers, the Grizzlies, the S.B. Stampede, the list goes on and on.
I wish you all luck as it sounds like the Generals may finally have all the pieces in place to take that title they have been working their asses off for.

Martin, When I said "loaded up" that was just a statement to the fact that you had everybody and their brother show up for that game. Yeah, they were on the roster, not even tryin to imply that you did anything wrong or were cheating. I don't even care about that, but the point was that you definitely were a better, and somewhat deeper team than you were when I watched you in the preseason, or during our first game. The Cards were well prepared and played a great game and yes, Luther and Alf, made a big diff in the way your team played they are both the real deal. You know if it wasn't for that one corner you had playin,(you know who) the game might have been very different.
Now, everyone enjoy the rest of the off-season, start gettin yourselves ready for a great '09 season

NO MATTER WHERE YOU CALL HOME!!!!!!

Like the old dude said, we do this for fun!!!!!

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Well put, J.T., Cory, AND Wayne...I know all three and have had the honor of playing on the field with all three as well.

All three played, and now all three RUN winning ORg's.

Nuff said...
Three great guys, for real.

Hey, No old jokes!)

Hendricks

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Brian, I don't think anybody was jokin, You really are old!!!! HAHAHAHA

You helpin the Generals again this year? They called me complaining about the locker room music you had playin. Said it was hard to get fired up for a game listenin to Kiki Dee and Elton John, I told 'em I had no idea what they were talkin about, I used to play the Bay City rollers before every game.

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Wayne-

That is pure propaganda! I was playing the track I ripped off from your CD downloaded from the '70's Basement Pahhtay 8 trax' from K-Tel that you gave me! ( Oh shoot, you told me not to say anything! )

Yeah, I was going to move to FTW, but the jobs are gone from there..so I will be with the G-squad again. ( Luckily for them, NOT calling plays..)

Hey, speaking of the old days, who was that guy that played for you that was number '00'? He was like 6'6 and 320...Big as Dudley...

Hendricks

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You talkin with the Thunder?
I'll have to do some thinkin on that one.
You gotta admit, we keep jokin about all that "music", but at some point we had to be exposed to it and it stayed with us at some scarey level. I think the scars are much deeper than I ever thought. I'm callin my psychologist rite now, This requires immediate attention!!!!!!

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He was with the thunder, I think he was the center. Real cool guy.

You wanna talk music? I DO own a few CD's that K-Tel produced the original trax on.

I can blame my father and Mother ( God rest her soul ) for the exposure to Neil Diamond..but I also got exposed to early Smokey Robinson, so Ma did ok...

But I also had stuff on my own in H.S...Cameo, Herbie Hancock, Art of Noise ( Yes I used to break dance!)

Had I scored (by some sort of freak accident) when we played you guys last yr, I was going to do the windmill, and shortly after, I would've died.

Hendricks

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No hard feelings Wayne, but you didn't have to pick on that one corner all game long!!! Oh yeah, Brian hit me up this weeked.

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C-note..

Gimme a number..and when I see you, I'm killin you- you know why...( too cold to play, my azz) ;)

Hendricks

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B man u used to listen to that house music every time you drove to practice, i couldnt wait to get to practice so i could get out that car. If you helpin with the generals good luck to your squad this comin year and wayne good luck to the patriots this year, god willing maybe i can actually play instead of doin the coaching thing!

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GOTTA HAVE HOUSE!!!

That will neva change! But hey, I was playing it on they way up to SB in 2002 when we played the Panthers and you went over 1,000 yards rushing in that season, so there was SOME good from it right?

Hendricks

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so wayne are you going to travel to indy to play the generals? they made the trip to you last year i dont see why this couldnt work. put some thought into it and bring your bus of boys down to indy

Kurt36

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I will say that I have talked to the Generals rep, and we have discussed the possibility of a preseason game. I'm sure that if it is meant to be, he and I will work out the details and make the announcement at the appropriate time and in the appropriate manner. It was a good game last year even if both teams were undermanned compared to what we were used to. I have a lot of respect for the Generals organization and the way they conducted themselves in getting together to play a game on such short notice, and then being professional and not trying to make it more than it was.
And what it was... Two team who wanted to play football and did what needed to be done to make that happen. No smack talk, no B.S. just take the field, play hard and leave it all out there.

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MAKE IT HAPPEN!!! ITS NOW FEB. IF IT DOESNT HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE 2-4 MONTHS TIL SEASON THATS PRETTY WEAK...
BOTH TEAMS WANT TO PLAY!
SO DO IT!!!

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Booyah... Screw it let's play the Pittsburgh Steelers ...

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Guys if it's ment to be it will. Lets get ready for our combine on March 1st.

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Hendricks...its going to be fun being on the sidelines with you this year instead of against you...im looking forward to the season....see ya soon.

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JC.

It was about time we rode the same ship TO the ship. (With players like yourself on , it will make my job allot easier, and the rest of the team a whole lot better too!!)

Proud to have you!

Hendricks

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Im just a role player...lol...the big dogs are coming with me though...:) or im going with them...not sure which it is lol.

Its going to be fun this year...adding good players to a good team with a good coach is going to be great.

see ya soon.

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Yes you will be adding good players but not to a good team and whats so good about your coach? Get over it please.