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Re: BEST 5 INDIANA SEMI-PRO TEAMS EVER!!!

How can there be a discussion of the five best semi-pro teams "ever" in Indiana without mentioning the Indianapolis Bears of the 70's. For more information on the Indianapolis Bears and the NAFL, I recommend reading "Semi-Football - Love Stories of the National Amatuer Football League" By Matt Schroeder.

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nice to see the xplosion getting a little love. like most teams on the list im sure you felt hated by everyone during your winning times lol i know we were

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sendo #64
Kinda odd nobody mentions the Cutters they were champs in two different leagues and only one person said the Indiana Mustangs. The rhinos,xplosion,flyers, cardinals were some great teams too but the consistency was never there.

There is a reason that the Cutters were not mentioned in this thread and there are a couple reasons,
First off the Cutters while having two very good teams never had a dominating team, they never had a season where they just flat out were above all the others. Perfect example of this was the 2010 Generals team who completely dominated every game they played this year yes the Cutters lost and keep it close but come on they were up 14-0 with about 4 minutes gone in the game and didn't finish the job those points were emotion points.
Second they won championships in only one league not two as stated, they won the IFL in both 2008 and 2009 BUT in both of those games they were close with them winning by one point both years and in 2009 had a missed field goal or a holding penalty not happened the Generals would have won that game.
The Cutters have never had an unbeaten season, their first year in 2007 they wound up losing in the semi-final game to the Adams County Patriots and finsihed with a 7-3 record with two of those losses coming to the JT coached Dragons.
In my humble opinion the best semi-pro teams I can remember since I started following semi-pro in 2000 are these teams now please note I said since the year 2000 I mean no disrespect to any team or any group of players.
These are in no specific order they are just who I think are the best.
Indianapolis Tornados
Adams County Patriots
South Central Broncos ( a very dominating team )
The Indiana Generals ( one loss in regular seasona nd preseason combined over the past two years. )
Lima Warriors ( what a game it would have been if they would have accepted the Generals offer to play. )
Noble County Wolfpack
Yes I know that is six but I put the Wolfpack in at the last minute they are surviving in a market with many teams they have good coaching and committed players and they are a very good football team in both their first two years.
I also want to throw out a special mention here to the Blitz team and organization they seem to always have low numbers and not much talent depth wise but they come play every week and they have a ton of heart.
I'll also throw this out I think the Indianapolis Tornados have an excellent organization behind them year in and year out, the Generals have done better the past three years but they seem to have a decent group or people supporting them now.
They don't get the sponsors they should but that may be their own fault.

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That is a very good point about the cutters and I agree. But using that arguement txt arguement the patriots shouldn't be included on this list. Yes they had two very good years and some very solid years but their success is almost identical to the cutters. I'm not disrespecting either team I'm just sayn if you arnt going to include the cutters then you shouldn't include the patriots.

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IMHO
sendo #64
Kinda odd nobody mentions the Cutters they were champs in two different leagues and only one person said the Indiana Mustangs. The rhinos,xplosion,flyers, cardinals were some great teams too but the consistency was never there.

There is a reason that the Cutters were not mentioned in this thread and there are a couple reasons,
First off the Cutters while having two very good teams never had a dominating team, they never had a season where they just flat out were above all the others. Perfect example of this was the 2010 Generals team who completely dominated every game they played this year yes the Cutters lost and keep it close but come on they were up 14-0 with about 4 minutes gone in the game and didn't finish the job those points were emotion points.
Second they won championships in only one league not two as stated, they won the IFL in both 2008 and 2009 BUT in both of those games they were close with them winning by one point both years and in 2009 had a missed field goal or a holding penalty not happened the Generals would have won that game.
The Cutters have never had an unbeaten season, their first year in 2007 they wound up losing in the semi-final game to the Adams County Patriots and finsihed with a 7-3 record with two of those losses coming to the JT coached Dragons.
In my humble opinion the best semi-pro teams I can remember since I started following semi-pro in 2000 are these teams now please note I said since the year 2000 I mean no disrespect to any team or any group of players.
These are in no specific order they are just who I think are the best.
Indianapolis Tornados
Adams County Patriots
South Central Broncos ( a very dominating team )
The Indiana Generals ( one loss in regular seasona nd preseason combined over the past two years. )
Lima Warriors ( what a game it would have been if they would have accepted the Generals offer to play. )
Noble County Wolfpack
Yes I know that is six but I put the Wolfpack in at the last minute they are surviving in a market with many teams they have good coaching and committed players and they are a very good football team in both their first two years.
I also want to throw out a special mention here to the Blitz team and organization they seem to always have low numbers and not much talent depth wise but they come play every week and they have a ton of heart.
I'll also throw this out I think the Indianapolis Tornados have an excellent organization behind them year in and year out, the Generals have done better the past three years but they seem to have a decent group or people supporting them now.
They don't get the sponsors they should but that may be their own fault.


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If the thread is best ever in Indiana history my list would be:

1. Kokomo Mustangs 93-95 ranked in the top 10 even as far as #1 in the Nation for 5 weeks. Loss to eventual national Champs Racine Raiders.

2. Indy Tornadoes even before they won the NAFL Championship they were a solid team.
3a. South Central Broncos (very dominate team of their era. First team in Indiana to beat the Kokomo Mustangs)
3b. Lafayette Lions (mid 90's)
4. River City Rhinos (a split of the Mustangs in the mid 90's)
5. Madison County Chiefs

In this era:

1. Tornadoes
2. Cutters
3. Generals
4. Adam County Patriots
5. Bearcats

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I have been following this thread for a few now just to see some of the different opinions. I think they all have merit but it's like trying to compare the Steel Curtain defense of the '70s Steelers and the Chicago Bears D in '85. Or the saying that that the 49ers of the 80's were better than the Colts or Patriots of the last 10 years. Even with all of those teams playing in the NFL they didn't play each other even 1 time to know who may have been the better team. Without some kind of commonality it's nothing more than speculation as to who the best teams in semi pro would be. But i'm going to give it a shot too. Just for fun!

My number one team over all would be the
Tornados from 07 or 08, sorry I can't remember which year they were so dominate they wouldnt have been beaten by any other team in this state.

#2 The '07 Patriots, we only allowed 1 team to score an offensive T.D on us during the entire MFL season(the Cutters put up 3 offensive T.D.s in the semi's and had a chance to tie it up as time expired)

#3 South Bend Stampede of 02 or 03, I played against them and they were stacked. I think they faced C.O.L. in the championship that year.

#4 S.C. Broncos during their 3 year streak. I never got to see them during that time, but, for a team to be that competitive for that long. . .they had to be good.

#5 Toss up:
02-04 Xplosion(Bulldogs),
08-09 Cutters,
06-07 Dragons
09-10 Generals
Indiana Mustangs, Vipers

I'm kind of basing my rankings on a 1 game head to head scenario. But again, its all subjective and just fun to talk about! If you think about it, there have been some very strong teams competing in this state for a very long time!
Here's to a future that can be just as fun!
I love this game

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Wayne,

Hey buddy, how is ya?

Who were you with in '02-'03 VS the Stampede?

Hendricks

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Brian, if I remember rite I was with the Mercer County Cougars. Can't honestly remeber if I was there or still with the Thunder. I've been hit in the head tooo many times to be able to remember much more than gettin handled by the Stampede and the grizzlies a couple times!

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Well, you got revenge on me with the Patriots, and yeah, they rank up there with some of the best.

I do remember playin the Cougars. They had a HUge QB and we though he was like "Battleship Lorenzen" with the Kentucky Blue and all..

Ahh, to be young and handsome again. (well, I was never handsome)

Hendricks