Here is one that I am anxious to hear the responses to.
If your league/team didn't have a "prize"(ring, trophy, etc.) to win at the end of the season, would you still play/coach/participate at this level?
I want to hear from as many different people as possible. Owners, coaches, players, fans(even supafans) would you do it?
Think about it before you answer. Is it all about winning the "big one" or do you truly love the game enough to play for the fun of it?
For what it is worth, I can say yes, I would do it without hesitation.
Thank you for humoring me!
Yes, this is the greatest game in the world.
11 men become one and drive to one goal score or stop from scoring. You always think back about a play or a drive or a hit before you think did we win that game.
yes i would do this in a heart beat!
I have to say yes. With this game that I love so much I have forged life long and part time friendships that I would not have had if not for this game. I played on many of teams that did not win a lot of games but the fun that we had while on the field can never be replace by anyhting else in life. I am in my first full year of retirement and coaching is the way that I have chosen to stay close to the game that I love. Anyone that would not do it just for the fun of it is in the wrong sport, in my opinion..
Well that is my two cents and good luck to all of the teams and players of the greatest game that I have known..
I think ultimately we do play the game to win, there is not doubt about that. Who wants to lose all the time. I also think that regardless of the outcome of the game, at this level you play to have fun and if winning is involved, it makes it that much sweeter. H*LL not everyone can be a Saber!!! lol...
#29 JC Sabers
Love of the game.
There are so many reasons to love this game. Schemes, planning, preparing, tackling, scoring, winning, and many more. But for me and what I emphasize to my team is the relationships. The relationships I have made over the past 9 years of coaching adult football mean more to me then any ring or prize that I could get at the end of a season. The people I have gotten to know and their families this is what the game is all about. If your only goal is to win then you most likely will not win. You need to focus your attention and desires on something other then winning. You can focus them on getting better and performing better but if you just focus on winning you are going to be sorry.
My point is make sure that you are doing everything you can to build the relationships among your teamates and coaches. These are what you are going to remember 30 years from now not the one play or tackle or even the championship. As a coach I have had to learn this over the years. Trust me this is not the way I started out coaching. I did not realize this until I had one of my players retire. The first time I had a player retire I had him come to practice and tell the team. I did not realize how hard it was going to be to listen to this speech. As I was fighting to hold back the tears I realized then that winning is not everything and that my players mean everything.
In conclusion part of being a man and growing up is realizing what is most important in life. Once we all learn this we will have more success on the field and off.
Darke County Warriors
For me winning the championship is my main goal, When I see guys with their huge a$$ champ rings on I just want to take it from them. but i realize that would be stealing and that is not nice. I just want A huge KICK A$$ ring on my finger. Common, how is the White Knuckle Knight suppose to fight the one eyed monster with out some armor to protect him. I NEED A CHAMPIONSHIP RING! COMMON MUSTANGS LETS RALLY TOGETHER AND RIDE! say it with me now, WE WANT RINGS! WE WANT RINGS! WE WANT RINGS!
ps I would still play if there was no championship. its the only way I can hurt you girls legally.
Personally I play for the Ring. I think all the other things that go along with football are pluses or minuses. The friends I have made over the years, the experiences. Being able to say I played semi pro football. It also takes time away from your family, I can't tell you the last time my family and I went on a vacation. Spent the weekend camping or at an amusement park. It's got its pros and cons. I always ask my family if they will support me when play football. Its important to have their blessing. When it comes right down to it I think everybody plays to win. To win a championship. Even at the youth level you can see the competitivness. Like they always say everybody loves winner.
Any game worth playing is worth winning
I play for the opportunity to battle. Rings, Trophys and Championships are meaningless to me. I am looking for that "HIGH" you get when you hit someones so hard that they get snot bubbles or even a concussion. If I walk away after a game or practice, it was a good day. I know the risk, we all run playing. Its part of life. Play like there is no tomorrow.. "&@^!"em all let a trainer sort em out.."
What a minute! You mean we get a trophy and a ring if we win the championship?! That makes it even better.
Seriously though, as the oldest member of the Patriots (41) I have waited a long time (24 years)to play this game again. I blew out a knee my senior year in high school and with that injury any hopes of college ball went down the drain. By the grace of God I have been given the opportunity to play the game that I love so much. The memories will last a lifetime and the opportunity for my kids to watch me play is something you can't place a dollar figure on. Where else can you strap on a helmet and knock somebody on thsir a$$ and not go to jail?
Football is truly the greatest game ever played.
The only thing i was ever really complimented on and the only thing i have ever been able to enjoy succeeding and failing at and the only thing I know i can do right at times is football. I know it sounds dum but if i were to die i hope it would be breaking my neck getting into the endzone. I will stop playing when my i can't walk or im dead. A ring or trophy shows you can win but giving a get well card to your rival is worth much much more.
Well I could go on for hour's about this game that all love so much. I will not be playing this season but coaching, but I played for 12 season's and beside's the gentlemen I have played beside and against, that has been all the family I have ever had until I was married, and had children, and the last three season's taking my five daughtersd to watch the games has been the most rewarding for me they cheer all the while win or loose, Let's go DADDY , Hell I dont even have to be dressed and they still cheer.
After our champinship game this fall my eight year old came to me crying like she lost her mom and said Daddy you are a champion now ,that;s why we are here.
Screw football, play ping pong!
just jokes, honestly the hardest question I have ever "Tried" to answer is "What do you get out of football?" sure you can name alot of things but but for some there is somethan to it that you just can't explain. i've tried, many times i've asked myself that question and can't find that answer so everytime i put those pads on or run drills or run routes or jog the length of the football field switching the ball every 5 yards and making a cut i'm always "searching". One of the great things about this sport, is how it can change a man off the field. For a game that can hold that much power must truely be respected. Call me crazy, but when you get the urge to go to your field at 1:00 a.m. on a school night and don't know why, and don't know if your sposed to be talkin to the grass or the night sky...that's when you know there is something special and you can't explain it.
Psssst.....crush99. Call the looney bin. I think we are gonna have to take Hemi down. Tell them to bring the "JACKET" too.
I am not real certain exactly when I became addicted.
It could be that it happened as a kid while watching "the game" on TV. It could be from watching those old Steve Sabol "NFL Action" bits. I remember that whenever the program concluded, we (DH80 and I) were so "hyped"; we would have to immediately try to get a game up. If we couldn’t get enough guys together, then we would at least go out and run routes.
I personally believe that football is the greatest team sport... period! Wrestling is called a team sport. Unfortunately, it is really all about the individual. The same is true for gymnastics and golf. In swimming and track, there are at least several events (relays) where there is some semblance of teamwork. I call baseball a team sport played by individuals. This is especially true when one watches a mediocre little league team. In that arena, at any given time, you may see one individual moving at a time unless there are base runners. Basketball is a team sport but there are only five players on each team. With football, you have 11 players from each team moving simultaneously.
I believe that yet another aspect of football that makes it unique among the others is fact that there is usually a limitation to how long one can play. For example, one may have played basketball during their school years. After their "formal" career is over, they can still participate in the game at any time. Being that Indiana is basketball country, you can not find a neighborhood where at least one home does not have a basketball goal. There are parks with goals, schools with goals, even some churches have gyms with goals. You can play by yourself or with any number up to 5 on 5. Guys that played baseball have softball. Many towns have recreational softball leagues. Obviously the ball is bigger but the game is essentially the same. For those that want speed, there are "fast-pitch" leagues. I believe this is where football is unique and why it is so popular with the viewing world. With football, in so many cases, once a given player takes the pads off for the last time, it is over!
To experience football, you need to tackle. There needs to be contact. With every potential contact, there is a risk. A risk of being injured. That risk tests a player’s physical strength, his mental toughness and his emotional make-up. It is as one of my old coaches called it... "controlled violence". Yet with this violence, I am struck that after games, players will cross the crown of the field and hug and wish each other well. Compare that with basketball where it seems though players are free to greet afterward, it seems to be a "forced" effort. Compare it again with baseball where the players don’t even greet after a game yet have the most "bench-clearing" events of any of the "team" sports.
I believe that football is a contest that may be more closely related to armed combat than any other sport. Indeed, many players even refer to their equipment as armor! In football, you have artillery known as the forward pass. One of the most beloved and exciting plays is "the bomb". Offensive Linemen could be known as the tanks of the "front line". Running backs charge through the line and attempt to avoid tacklers as if dodging bullets or land mines on their way to the objective. Linebackers sometimes employ "the blitz". This term came into vogue after the German armored forces developed this tank doctrine prior to and used in World War II. The German word was "blitzkrieg".
Like soldiers on the battlefield, there are many that admire the "warrior" but can not be the "warrior". There is something about the game that evokes feelings of "homeland defense" or attacking due to a "just cause". Who can not remember the National Anthem being sung by Whitney Houston during the build-up to Desert Storm? Americans gathered together in one place, in the strength of numbers of a large city, flags waving and showing their support for the troops so far away. Can you feel the chills? We all imagine what it must have felt like to emerge from the tunnel to that sea of Red, White and Blue. Click-Clack!
I know why I played. It is because of all the above. Would it make a difference if there were no Championship? That question is more difficult to answer that I would have thought.
Because of all of the reasons that I mentioned, it seems that there has to be an objective. Without an objective, there is no purpose. Without purpose, there is nothing to focus on. Without focus, it is just another activity. To me, it seems that the whole game is based upon achievement. Without a goal, what is there to achieve? In armed combat, the goal is to win... period. We talk about sacrifice and commitment. The same old coach that I mentioned above had another saying that I have always loved. Before one particular game, he challenged us to "go out and play like we had 60 minutes to live". Do we not celebrate those that have perished while "fighting a just cause".
I like to look at each week as a test, a test for excellence. One can not know how far he has progressed without a method of measuring improvement. With football we measure it with the scoreboard. While this method is not without flaw and is thereby imperfect, it does give us a goal to aim for. Like a war, there is not usually one single battle that makes the difference and so a season schedule is created. Each week, your "resolve" is thereby tested. Like the process of creating steel from iron ore, pressure is added. At the end of the process, one possesses something that was stronger than it was. Some might call it "mettle" as is applicable for this particular subject. At the end of the war, there is usually a peace treaty. The vanquished meets the victor, "The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat". Does there have to be a trophy, or rings, or T-shirts? For me the answer is no, because in the final analysis, the true accomplishment lies in what got you there in the first place. The accomplishment lies in ones heart. No one can take that away. Material things can be lost but that which lies in the heart can never be forsaken.
Better people have said this than me and so in closing this response, I leave you with the words of "an immortal"...
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle-victorious." ~ Vince Lombardi
AMEN to hill....that twas beeeeautiful! and quit calling me stupid anglin....i hate you.
I play because I love it.
I play because it is fun.
I play for the pain. I play because it hurts.
I play for the bruises and cuts, because when you get out of bed the Wednesday morning after a practice, the Sunday morning after a game, and then Monday morning and Tuesday morning, you feel it. You feel like you have done something. It hurts, but it feels good.
I play to hear that sound when someone gets hit in the gut and all the air goes out of their body.
I play to hear the pads pop. To hear the collective "oooh!" on the sidelines after a big hit.
I play to get knocked down. I play to get up. I play to hit people. I play to knock down.
I play for the challenge. I play because I quit when I was in high school and I wanted to prove something to myself.
I play for myself. I play for my teammates.
I play for the relationships and the comraderie.
I play for the rivalries.
I play because the 11 guys on the other side of the line are gonna try to beat us down, and we are going to try to beat down the 11 guys on the other side of the line.
I play for 4th and inches, to go for it on 4th down. I play for 4th and inches, to get that big stop on D.
I play for the one point victories. I play for the blowouts.
I play to put on that uniform. To put on the pads and go out like a gladiator. I play so my kids can slap my pads and run into me. I play so they can watch me. So they can tell all their friends, "my dad plays football."
I play for the smell of the grass, the smell of the sweat.
I play for the cheers. I play for the tears.
I play because not everyone can.
I play to see the look on people's faces when I tell them I play.
I play because people say that I shouldn't.
I play because people said that I couldn't.
I play for the respect, both that I give and receive.
I play for my brothers on the field.
I play because I can.
I play because I love it.
Show up for practice then!
LOl show up for practice I can't quit laughing
Someone from my own team, too afraid to use their real name, and gonna call me out. My circumstances haven't played out yet, I may take this year off. But whatever happens, it is none of your concern. I suppose I shouldn't have posted because the post didn't concern me. Oh well, I wasn't afraid to voice my feelings and opinions. And, when I can make it to practice, if that is the case, I will be at practice. I have almost never missed practice in 4 years, even when I have been injured. The only time I have missed was due to coaching obligations. So don't come at me about not being at practice. And if this is who I think it is, you have absolutely no right to be concerned about anyone missing practice.
Since this seems to be funny to some people, I will explain. I have not been to practice because I have been contemplating hanging the pads up. After missing most of the season last year due to back surgery and my wife and I having our fourth child in January, my playing future is uncertain. I haven't decided if I am going to play again. That's it. So if that is comical, be my guest. Have a laugh. Whoever "General" is, he or she has not contacted me in any way to find out why I have not been at practice. I have only spoken to five people about it, and they are the one's that need to know. So if you want to know something, you can call me. Otherwise, don't come on a public forum and call me out.
Okay- on a serious note, it really sucks that "General" had to come in here and be negative and hijack the thread. Whatever your differences with Stoney- you can discuss that with him- and begrudging his obvious love for the game has nothing to do with this thread.
On a less than serious note, all of this talk about practice made me think that it was time to turn to a wise sage who once spoke so cogently and sympathetically on this very topic:
I am here because the game sunk its hooks into me many years ago, and still has me to this very day. This is the greatest game on earth, and I don't want to stop playing. When I started out I wasn't consistant with my extra points and field goals, and my kickoffs would fall at the 15. After that first season back in 1996, I hit the gym and worked my butt off and improved greatly over the next few years. This game has taught me the value of hard work. No job has taught me that, no school either, it was football. Semi-pro ball has allowed me to improve my skills and move to higher levels of play.
My wife thinks I'm nuts paying what I do to play a game, not to mention all of the shoes and extra stuff that I usually need. There is something about going to battle with a group of guys whom you have grown closer to than some of your own family. This is my extended family, my brothers, as disfunctional as we all are sometimes, they are my brothers.
I find great satisfaction in the fact that my teammates know they can count on me to prepare properly for a game, and that if it comes down to me, they are confident in my ability to make the kick, just like I am confidant in their ability to perform their job.
I love being able to compete in a sport I love. I love warm Saturday summer evenings at home or on the road. I love being able to BS with my teammates on the bus trips. I love walking onto a field knowing that I am about to make a kick that is going to help my team be victorious. I love walking off the field at the end of the game knowing that I did everything I could do to help the team. I love playing on a beatiful patch of grass or turf, granted I don't stalk the field at 2 in the morning, but I love it the same. I love my slightly disfunctional brothers, and I love football.
#1 Fort Wayne Flyers
I would play if ther ewer no prizes at the end of the season. This game has given me more pain and joy than anything else in life. I have gotten to meet paople that I would have never met outside of football. I will always be a Bulldog, Raven, Chief, Tornado, and Bronco. No one can take that away from me. I play to be somebody else on the field. We all become superheros once we hit that field. You don't believe me then look at the eyes of the children who ask for your autograph. Look at the admiration and envy in the eyes of adults who can not or will not play this game. Go to a children's hospital and soak up what the kids give you. We are immortal to them. Unfortunately our immortality is limited. Once you hang up the pads, you are a mild-mannered person again. Soak it up while you can. Do everything you can while you are a player. Entertain and respect the people. Before you know it it will be over.