Caernarfon Ddoe/Caernarfon's Yesterdays

Croeso i Fforwm Caernarfon Ddoe. Os oes gennych unrhyw gwestiwn am hanes y Dref postiwch yma a fe fyddwn yn hapus i geisio eich ateb. Os da chi yn teimlo fedrwch helpu gyda unrhyw gwestiwn fydd eich cyfraniad yn groesawus dros ben. Atebir y cwestiynnau yn y Saesneg neu yn y Gymraeg ac yn yr iaith y gofynnir y cwestiwn.

Os oes gennych unrhyw gwestiwn hanes teuluol, postiwch nhw yn yr adran penodol a fe fydd Keith yn hapus i geisio eich ateb.

Welcome to the Caernarfon's Yesterdays Forum. If you have a question about any aspect of the town's history please post it here and we will be happy to try and assist. If you feel you can help with any question then please feel free to contribute. Questions will be answered in English or in Welsh and in the language in which the question is asked.

If you have any brief family history questions, please post them in the dedicated area and Keith will try and answer them for you.

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Re: The Red Dragon Saga

Hi Bronwen,

Many thanks for your kind words.

I will leave Meirion to answer your query regarding the Red Dragon Saga as he knows more about the event than I do.

The University records are held at the University Archives at Bangor. I do not know the scope of their holdings, but if you contact them they will be able to advise you whether they have any relevant documents. Their contact email is:

archives@bangor.ac.uk

Regards your grandfather's war service; if he served with the armed forces then all Second World War service records are still held by the Ministry of Defence. There is further information about how to apply here:

http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/army.html

As far as the Security Services are concerened, their records are held at the National Archives in London. There is a research guide to what is available at:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/intelligence-records.htm

Good luck with your research.

Regards,

Keith.

Re: The Red Dragon Saga

Keith, thank you for your reply. I have sent my question to the University of Bangor address. I am fairly sure that grandad was not in 'armed service' - there was certainly never any uniform. I am completely baffled by the National Archives site, so I am hoping the University can give me a bit more of a clue before I try and contact them. Many thanks again for your help. Bronwen

Re: The Red Dragon Saga

Dear Bronwen,

I am sorry to have to disappoint you with regard to the 20 or so students that took part in the Red Dragon Saga. I got my information from the book written by J.E. Jones and the only name that he gives is that of the leader of the group viz. R. E. Jones, who became a teacher and ended up as Headmaster of Llanberis School. He was also a Plaid Cymru candidate in a post WW11 election, I think this would have been in the late 1950's.

One intersting item that he wrote is about a policeman who, somehow or other, had a piece of the Union flag framed and was a lifelong supporter of P.C.

You may like to contact Mrs. Angharad Rhys Williams, daughter of the late J.E. Jones, from whom I borrowed the book. Her address is Melin y Wig, Llys Gwyn, Caernarfon, Tel No. 01286 674865. She is also online, but I do not have her email address.

Regards,

Meirion

Re: The Red Dragon Saga

Meirion , I am a bit disappointed! I just have this memory of Grandad reading a book from the library, I'm fairly sure now that I think about it that it was in welsh, he showed me his name in the text, and told me a bit of the story. Mum told me about it again after he died, as I inherited his piece of the flag. I have always hoped to find that book - but I am sad to say, I don't speak or read welsh (result of being brought up over the border!). But thank you for your other helpful information, I have already contacted University of Bangor and am waiting eagerly for a reply. I will write to Mrs Williams as well, you never know, and 'if you don't ask you don't get' I have found. It's a great story - I'm so glad my grandad was there (in whatever role). Bronwen