1-2 Cougars vs the 3-0 Spartans, interesting matchup who do you have and why?
Funny you bring up the records like that. Let's compare each other's schedules:
Franklin vs. Midland
Franklin vs. Odessa Permian
Franklin vs. Copperas Cove
PH vs Irvin
PH vs Andress
PH vs Chapin
Of course you're going to be 3-0 when you play those kind of schools. Pebble Hills looks greatly improved, but they're still not at the level of Franklin.
Pebble Hills 21
Be careful talking about Franklin football online or else you'll have epwatch who is the ambassador to Franklin and knows every Franklin grad and Franklin parent who gets online will come and tell you to shut your mouth and not talk about Franklin football.
I would not underestimate Pebble Hills if I was you, they have a very experience team full of seniors. I believe it will be 14-24 Pebble Hills.
Franklin definitely had the harder non-district schedule for sure, so throw those records out. I'm looking forward to this game because it will definitely start telling us where both teams are in the grand scheme of things.
Great machup, but Franklins hard pre schedule will have them ready for district.
Fruity Pebbles Hills-3
I don't think you can hold Pebble Hills to 3 points. When you played Midland you played against they're #2 QB they're #1 was out the first week.
Wasn't a disrespect thing just added the records the entire city knows Franklin had a brutal non district schedule.
Most your comments are disrespectful.
Cougars by 20+.... Now that it's district play I'll be rooting for 1 El Paso team. Hopefully Franklin's explosive offense will start to show in district play. Against Midland cougars scored at will, against Permian and Cove it was a struggle. Good thing is it's plenty of weapons to be used, Defense isn't playing as bad as scores have projected but that's an entirely different conversation.
Pebble Hills 14
Franklin will not hang with the Spartans.
Pebble Hills played Irvin, Andress, and Chapin. Irvin was a complete cupcake game.
Andress is typically a very athletic and competitive team. They are struggling offensively, and from the pre-district I saw I don't think Andress would beat any 6A team with the possible exception of Socorro. Now if Andress was able to find their offense in their last two games, then it may have been a different story
Chapin, in my opinion, was a quality football game. Chapin is another athletic and competitive team. They beat a Bel Air team that seems to be a good team this year, and they beat Eastlake. Eastlake beat El Dorado in week 1.
Yes Pebble Hills had an easier schedule than Franklin, but with the wins over Andress and Chapin gave them a lot of confidence. The downside to playing those teams is if they do happen to make the playoffs, then they will not have any idea of what the competition will look like.
Franklin played Midland, Permian, and Copperas Cove. They beat Midland who, although they are struggling I saw it as a good win.
Permian is always a great team and Franklin now has experience and film on them of they happen to play again. Same with Copperas Cove.
Franklin went 1-2. As far as rhythm goes they were not able to find any and the point of injuries is a good one. What Franklin did gain in those games is They played very tough competition, and if they happen to make playoffs they have an idea of what they will be up against. There are pros and cons to each teams schedule. This bye week will either be advantageous or disastrous for both teams, but we will find out next week. I still give Pebble Hills the advantage because of their current situation. As far as who you should schedule for pre-district I would schedule two tough opponents the fist two weeks (at least one who you will possibly play in playoffs) and one easier game to give your team a smooth transition to district play with limited injuries.
I too believe Pebble Hills has the edge in this one I think both teams will make the playoffs along with Eastwood and Montwood
Chemistry should be ok... I'll just see how it plays out.
Go back and read last year around this time. Everyone was giving them credit for playing a tough non-district schedule. Yes Irvin wasn't very good but neither were the Spartans first EVER varsity team. Had a chance to beat Andress and got crushed by Chapin 1-2 pre-season. And people said welcome to varsity football. Now they have improved (3-0 pre-season) and people are calling it a cupcake schedule. Give credit where credit is do. Those kids and coaches learned a lot last preseason and improved because of it. Based on that alone I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt. If there learnering curve is this high, it could make for an interesting district race. As far as not playing out of town teams (You gotta crawl before you walk), renember it's a two year cycle. They played and scrimmaged 3 of the top 5 Perennial 5a teams in the city. Then turned around and played all of the top 6a teams. And i believe there JV schedule was 6a as sophmores. Not a bad intro to varsity football. Let's see how this season plays out and then see who the add on their schedule for the next two years. I hope it's out of town teams as well. It will only make them better.
Who cares! The kids play who they play! It's a Franklin vs Pebble Hills topic, or am I wrong? Lol just know I'm taking Franklin, well I'm a Franklin parent and supporter, I think this will be an entertaining high school football game. Let's get it done cougars!
The pre district schedule means nothing to these kids. Wannabe prognosticators and talking heads get into that, me included. I expect a very fast paced game because both teams have exceptional speed. I would have to see how Franklin OL is sized. PHHS is smaller but very fast up front defensively. Both teams secondary will be tested.
Pebble Hills- 30
in a tough one
I believe it might be a little closer than we imagine. Hoping the play calling improves offensively for Franklin. The OC, after 3 years I would think he would improve, yet still seeing the same vanilla play calling from previous years. With such talent on that team, you better start figuring things out coach. FHS Fans are waiting for you to evolve. Going up against Torres who coached and thought outside the box. We shouldn't get out played, chances are we might get out coached at the coordinator positions. New year, lets get it together. Franklin by 7
Hopefully we get it rolling we have some solid weapons but yes we need to be a bit more creative, play to kids strengths, and try not to be so predictable.
Franklin the underdogs in this one.
This should be a good game!!!
Good luck tie both teams.
@Williams it has nothing to do with putting in the "years" to become a good football program. Has a lot to do with like mentioned earlier, the quality of talent and the quality coaching. Listening to other coaches and parents PH making some noise and there not to be over looked. I have to agree being at all three FHS non district games that we do have the players but good gawd the offensive play calling is not the Franklin Football way, not to mention the lack of adjusting on the defensive side of the ball, I don't know what to make of it either. Ive seen the frustration in parents because of that. Coach Walker should make a change at the OC position sooner than later if we looking to make a run at district. I think PH will be a test. That EPGRIDIRON video on PH, yeah its Andress but they still look impressive.
Previous OC had multiple D1 and D2 prospects. Texas State, BYU, Harvard, UTEP, Cornell. Easy to complain...
Qué chingados! Is your kid not getting enough play time?
*they’re not to be over-looked*
*if we’re looking to make a run*
What do prospects have anything to do with play calling and running an offense??? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Look at the script unless your oblivious to the play calling. How do you call the same play 4 times in a row and stay with 6-8 play offense the entire game? You must be new to the scene. Stay with what I'm saying without bringing any non issues like the players when today the team has play makers. Come up with a better argument. Talking about the script "Play calling".
Can't use your own username?? My kid plays plenty. My opinion of what I'm hearing PH is doing is just that, my opinion. Don't get your cute feelings hurt over my opinion. If your looking past PH dad or whoever you are then state your reasoning. You said nothing of value on your post. "Que chingados"
We won't look past any 6A team! I know the kids are focused on Pebble Hills that's what matters. Play calling definitely needs to be improved on the offensive side of the ball, changes at the slot receiver should be considered as well. Lot's of talent on this team. Only way is up from here. (Hopefully)
Our boys will take care of business
Sparta coming strong!!! Franky isn't going to know what hitem!!!
I'm only going to say this once so don't ask me to repeat this and don't bother posting any other predictions on this game as this prediction is all anyone needs.
Pebble Hills 35 Franklin 17
We've been hit multiple times this year already...
AU Au! Au!! Au!!!
Bravery, Loyalty, & Determination
Please stop with this 300 Sparta thing....they all died at the end.
Well they seem to be holding up pretty good so far 21-7 at the half. PH looks pretty solid. What they lack in size they make up for it in speed. Let's see if Franklin can adjust.
From this day forward we own Franklin.
Franklin looking overwhelmed right now. They have no QB! PH dline killing Franklin.
What in the world is going on at Franklin. Team has just given up 57-13. Pebble Hills seems to have welcomed Franklin to 6A. Good job Spartans
WOW !!! Welcome to the Big Boy Club of 6A Spartans!!! What a drubbing!!!
Franklin needs some serious coaching changes. Freshmen win district every year and varsity sucks. Just resign Walker.
What's the excuse now? Didn't you all say we were going to lose?
I am glad FHS didn't run that #21 more in the first half. That may have made things more interesting. Also PHHS attacked the FHS secondary and had a big first half. The PHHS d line is not big but they play fast and use terrific technique. Unless they or MHS stumble they could meet Nov 3 undefeated. Yea, I looked way ahead.
Good call, very close prediction
How did that 4th QTR treat you with our second and third stringers getting some reps.
DIDNT SEE THIS COMING
NOW I CAN APPRECIATE THE PRIOR PLAYERS UNDER THIS COACHING STAFF A LITTLE MORE
IT MAY BE TIME FOR A CHANGE
WAS GOOD TO SEE THE OLD COACHES FROM FRANKLIN AGAIN
WALKER KEPT THE WRONG OC
ON TO NEXT YEAR!
LOVE MY COUGARS NOT SURE IF THEY CAN TURN THIS AROUND
Great game Cougars. The swing of momentum from the middle of second quarter to middle of 3rd was tremendous. We shot out like a cannon but Franklin stole all momentum about mid way thru 2nd & carried it into 2nd half. #21 had some huge runs! Our bend don't break defense came up big tonight & scored a couple of TD's & that made the difference in the game. Spartans let's stay humble & keep moving forward. Good luck Cougars the rest of the way.
Pebble Hills played lights out, capitalized on their oppurtunites, seized the moment,very well coached team. Took advantage of different match ups on the field, anytime your defense can score 21 points you deserve the big win. Spartans looked good. My Cougars just don't look like a team, from top to bottom, the cohesion from week 1 has quickly vanished, kids are frustrated, coaches frustrated, fans frustrated, getting out played and out coached isn't a good look. Too many individuals not enough TEAM effort,we don't come up with the 50/50 balls, we arn't mentally tough, QB play was awful and lackadaisical, the will to win seems to be gone especially after watching alot of our kids laughing on the sideline in the 4th quarter, really embarrassing. So that part I definitely put on the kids.
Coaching stand point, defensively we were horrible on 3rd down, not 3rd and short, but 3rd and 10+ yards atleast 6x, and we couldn't get off the field, corners were left in man coverage and played absolutely terrible! Pebble Hills saw that and ran simple slant or go routes and beat our defense all 6x in those 3rd down situations.(#2 Stonewall should start both ways Receiver/Corner). We only have 1 defensive end who is playing well right now that's #32 Cerros anyone else we try on the opposite end is getting taking advantage of along with #44 Olb Sievek. Offensively now has scored only 13 points each of the last 2 games. Franklin's need for "speed" has gotten out of hand! The spread offense isn't tailored to our personal, horrible slot receiver play, drop after drop after drop. (#5 McClain-Green should go both ways and start at slot with #83 Warthen) neither #40 Jernigan or #18 Lozano played any receiver growing up or at the Freshman/JV level but they have decent speed so throw them in the game? Not a good idea. #23 Crenshaw gets no love, #3 Lyles is a cry baby, #21 Dominguez hard runner, gotta pass protect and run block a little better. Offensive coordinator we the fans are asking for a major change! HC WALKER where are you???? Put these kids in the right position to be successful! I'm not sure these changes will work but we need some change because what we've accomplished the last 3 games just isn't enough. [Venting Fan]
Who is your daddy little kitty cats???
Sparta person Pebble Hills has only beaten Franklin once I don't believe Pebble Hills is their daddy. Beat Franklin in consecutive seasons and earn that slang saying slogan or whatever.
PH looks playoff ready after their win over Franklin!
Honestly, I think the cougars will have a good season, I believe they will bounce back and turn their whole season around! As far as the players go, I believe they have a ton of talent, they have 3-4 players with college offers so far, I believe #21 Dominquez & #3 Lyles have a good shot at going D1, I wouldn't call Lyles a cry baby, because he has talent & the Franklin coaches in my eyes don't utilize him as much as they should, and that could be frustrating to any player that has college attention! Same goes for #2 Stonewall! I believe Stonewall should be going both ways because he did play corner for Franklin last year as a freshman and was good enough to seal a victory over Eastwood last year! #3 could be another Tyqueze Hampton!
I'm hoping we can turn it around.