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El Paso Athlete vs. East Texas Athlete

El Paso,

Here is a sincere and constructive critical letter addressed to the El Paso student athlete, El Paso coaches and El Paso athletic directors. In fact, this letter is quite simple and to the point. So parents you are the backbone of your students success and consequently you have power to make your school competitive...you have been asking the Gold, 64k dollar question for years, decades. The question El Paso has been asking for years...without no solution or answer to its generational problem. Why? Why, can't El Paso teams compete against east Texas teams. So the answer is quite simple, the answer lies on the obvious. Nutrition and Strategic training. There! There lies your problems. Too many fast food joints being visited by your student athletes, the main focus for many El Paso athletes is food. Namely, fast food. Not sold on the answer? Take a look at the east Texas athlete and compare him to an El Paso high school athlete. Heck! Compare the cheerleaders, their waistline is always equipped with extra baggy obliques. Fast food! In east texas there are standards and accountability, you don't make the fat percentage and conditioning you don't represent Converse Judson football, Katy or Aledo! Period. so there you have it El Paso. Digest it, think about it and be true to the obvious and you may compete soon at the next level!

Go Eagles! Katy!

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stfu......this is stupid. you fuccin east Texas guys act like all east Texas teams are better than our teams. well their not. the same teams are winning and that is because of recruiting etc......so stop.

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Yup...thats why El Paso doesn't get anywhere with people like you refusing to acknowledge the problem. Recruiting? wow...you must not understand football at this level or even been to east Tex. The kids work hard at their craft, you don't give them credit for the sacrifice they put in on nutrition and conditioning. El Paso stays put where they are with the mentality you have. I hope you are not a coach. Wowsers! Yikes!

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East Texas
El Paso,

Here is a sincere and constructive critical letter addressed to the El Paso student athlete, El Paso coaches and El Paso athletic directors. In fact, this letter is quite simple and to the point. So parents you are the backbone of your students success and consequently you have power to make your school competitive...you have been asking the Gold, 64k dollar question for years, decades. The question El Paso has been asking for years...without no solution or answer to its generational problem. Why? Why, can't El Paso teams compete against east Texas teams. So the answer is quite simple, the answer lies on the obvious. Nutrition and Strategic training. There! There lies your problems. Too many fast food joints being visited by your student athletes, the main focus for many El Paso athletes is food. Namely, fast food. Not sold on the answer? Take a look at the east Texas athlete and compare him to an El Paso high school athlete. Heck! Compare the cheerleaders, their waistline is always equipped with extra baggy obliques. Fast food! In east texas there are standards and accountability, you don't make the fat percentage and conditioning you don't represent Converse Judson football, Katy or Aledo! Period. so there you have it El Paso. Digest it, think about it and be true to the obvious and you may compete soon at the next level!

Go Eagles! Katy!

Do you actually know any athletes or anything about El Paso football? Where’d you get the idea that all our athletes eat fast food everyday? It seems to me like you’re just an outsider looking in. Not to sure the problem lies with the nutrition or whatever other bs you’re talking about. There’s plenty of outstanding athletes here in EP all who i’m sure don’t go too fast food joints everyday like you think they do. Some of those athletes are Deion Hankins (5th ranked running back in the state and finished 1st last season i believe), Tyrese Andrus, Cedarius Barefield and the list goes on. The only problem with El Paso is that all the talent here is too spread out. There are a total of 25 f**king schools here and they just keep popping up. So no the problem isn’t “nutrition and strategic training” we just have too many schools here. Thanks for the advice though. Go enjoy you’re 64 million dollar stadium bud! GO EL PASO!

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Hmmm...interesting argument but I think you are just simply finding an excuse. We have a unilateral company that does athletics analysis in Dallas. We have alot of data to work with, and the facts support the advice i provided to El paso. In fact, Bel Air El Paso, Socorro, El Paso High and even Riverside Middle are schools that we assist so we have been there we have people that know the city and the community. So we understand the frustration. If you take a consensus case study on your coaches, your coaches will agree and if they don't then they are simply there to collect a paycheck. With that being said, football is a very physical sport that requires the training to succeed. The players you mentioned are good players in el paso, they are fantastic and the crop of the city, however in east texas it would be a different story. In our regions they may be 2nd or 3rd tier players. Not one of the players you mentioned will play D-1 major, they do not have the foundation to play at that level. Not destined and programmed to do so and not coached for that environment of D1-major. On the other hand our east texas athletes are geared to take the mental and physical challenges by thinking and understanding what it takes. El Paso has to change what is broken if they ever want to compete at our levels.

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Eh, some of the teams youve listed arent known for being powerhouse schools in football.

To the same lame excuse about too many high schools, teams like Laredo United with over 4000 students are staying home this year. Theyve never been able to beat teams like Westlake or Judson. Other teams like Plano East and West also have large enrollments and their football success has been minimal. The best option for EP schools to possibly succeed in the playoffs is having 2000-2100 students at most. At that point those schools would be amongst the largest in class 5a.

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My son and I love Burgers more than State titles. You keep, shine it till it sparkles and stare at your State titles all day long and we will enjoy life to the fullest.

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thisbis someone trying to sell a service like outside training this isn't an easy texas person. btw since you are from her you can't say what east Texas teams do that we don't do. btw......what about the 90% of schools in east Texas that are the same as us. again stfu

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Not justifying what this guy is saying, but I can somewhat see what he is saying. I don't think every El Paso kid is just eating fast food 24/7, but nutrition is a big part of being successful. We have the talent here in El Paso to compete with the rest of the state. I don't care what he says, Dion would start at just about any high school in Texas. I think the big thing is the standards that coaches and players are held at. But with higher standards should come higher salaries for coaches. With higher standards for players should come more booster funds and community involvement. It's not just one or two issues, but multiple small issues that could be resolved. It just comes down to if we as in coaches, players, and communities want it bad enough. Last year we all talked about what we thought were the issues, but nothing was ever really done. Hopefully it changes this year. One last thing I will say though, is over the past few years it seems like we are catching up to the Midland, Odessa, and Lubbock teams, and that to me is something to look at to continue growing towards. Good luck to all El Paso teams and I will be pulling for you to shut these East Texas teams up.

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what kills me is that they act like all the teams are better than ours when it is the same teams winning every year. and those teams have all the tools money and recruit

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The thing that cracks me up is they all claim to be Permian or Allen fans...I know that's a lie. Allen doesn't give to sh*ts about us. Why would they come on this forum? Permian maybe, but I doubt it. I would put money on that they are either El Paso people posing as out of towners or out of towners whose team sucks.

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I thinknthia is an in towner trying to push their elite training business.

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East Texas
El Paso,

Here is a sincere and constructive critical letter addressed to the El Paso student athlete, El Paso coaches and El Paso athletic directors. In fact, this letter is quite simple and to the point. So parents you are the backbone of your students success and consequently you have power to make your school competitive...you have been asking the Gold, 64k dollar question for years, decades. The question El Paso has been asking for years...without no solution or answer to its generational problem. Why? Why, can't El Paso teams compete against east Texas teams. So the answer is quite simple, the answer lies on the obvious. Nutrition and Strategic training. There! There lies your problems. Too many fast food joints being visited by your student athletes, the main focus for many El Paso athletes is food. Namely, fast food. Not sold on the answer? Take a look at the east Texas athlete and compare him to an El Paso high school athlete. Heck! Compare the cheerleaders, their waistline is always equipped with extra baggy obliques. Fast food! In east texas there are standards and accountability, you don't make the fat percentage and conditioning you don't represent Converse Judson football, Katy or Aledo! Period. so there you have it El Paso. Digest it, think about it and be true to the obvious and you may compete soon at the next level!

Go Eagles! Katy!


Dang!!! You even had to go to the extent to body shame our cheerleaders! I'll have you know some of these squads have power tumblers!

I'll humor you and stroke your ego, Yes you're the best!! I love my chunky rolls!

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Wow...you try to help El Paso and the defensive side lunges! Again..another year more excuses.. Lol...nothing to sell no elite training no nothing just sound proven advice...just trying to paint the picture of truth on why the city is stuck in its hs sports. So I have family in El Paso..here to visit. Thought I would participate and help on this forum...share what works in our part of the state. As for the teams I listed all having phenominal seasons. Look it up..do some research...as for the people wanting to stick to their fat intake...its all good. Enjoy just stop complaining that you cant compete. Montwood El Paso should be about the only crack El Paso has to compete vs Keller or Arlington..Montwood, they are ranked 131 in state...long shot...but about the only hope. Karlos has some good points though...enjoyed his post.

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East Texas
Wow...you try to help El Paso and the defensive side lunges! Again..another year more excuses.. Lol...nothing to sell no elite training no nothing just sound proven advice...just trying to paint the picture of truth on why the city is stuck in its hs sports. So I have family in El Paso..here to visit. Thought I would participate and help on this forum...share what works in our part of the state. As for the teams I listed all having phenominal seasons. Look it up..do some research...as for the people wanting to stick to their fat intake...its all good. Enjoy just stop complaining that you cant compete. Montwood El Paso should be about the only crack El Paso has to compete vs Keller or Arlington..Montwood, they are ranked 131 in state...long shot...but about the only hope. Karlos has some good points though...enjoyed his post.


Just because you're from a city or part of Texas that has high school football teams that win State titles or what have you does not make you an expert. Get over yourself.

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Curious
Hopefully it changes this year. One last thing I will say though, is over the past few years it seems like we are catching up to the Midland, Odessa, and Lubbock teams, and that to me is something to look at to continue growing towards. Good luck to all El Paso teams and I will be pulling for you to shut these East Texas teams up.


Ive been following local and state hs football for 20 years. For a long time, during the entire 80s and 90s, only one, ONE El Paso team advanced vs an out of town team. Since 2001 it is a completely different story. Now it is a complete disappointment if at least one 6a and 5a team doesnt beat a West Texas team each year.

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Matt Stepp wrote this on these boards before: the ISD's need to seriously invest in the development of the coaching and training staffs. He wrote, among several things, that they need to attend the coaching seminars and bring that knowledge back to their schools. Sure makes a whole lot of sense.

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Alex. I have been doing it a long time. Long..long time. But also I am a father of 6 boys that have been through the ranks. I will tell you two of my boys were a bit different going into their athletic careers. They found excuses why they couldnt perform...instead of focusing on improving they leaned on people who had sympathy for them. We encouraged them...we trained them with self accountability and perseverance. They are better for it in all aspects of life. Excuses are just passes ...El Paso has to learn not to accept it. So so much of it is psychological...dont get me wrong I love El Paso..I guess thats why its frustrating for me not to get this part of Texas going. We have offered El Paso coaches help but there is very little communication with our East texas coaches. In essence, coaches feel either intimidated or feel chastized. Not sure...Go Rams! I would love to see Montwood play Keller or Arlington. Both are ranked around 50th in the state. Montwood btw is 131st.

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Karlos you have hit the nail on the head..the gap with mid texas has closed. Odessa Permian is still a beast. We in East Texas have tremendous respect for Mojo. You should hear and see their training regiments...some of the best in the nation. They do alot of visual acuity exercises..also the bolster their confidence through team building skills. Businesses rally aroung by providing the best nutrition...parents attend practices..each player takes accountability by cleaning their own uniforms..lockers..gear..etc..tremendous discipline. Thanks for your posts Karlos.

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Mike you are on target. There is quite alot of work east texas schools coaches..parents and players do on their own to try to reach some level of optimum performance. Networking is also very important..coaches need to bridge the communication gap.but more importantly..nutrition..is the core of all things. Simple but true. Ask any coach.."coach was is your nutrition regiment for your team...?" The answer will relect his team's progress or status. Does he know if his qb is eating fish or chicken..? How often? Etc..makes a huge difference on the win column.

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East Texas
Mike you are on target. There is quite alot of work east texas schools coaches..parents and players do on their own to try to reach some level of optimum performance. Networking is also very important..coaches need to bridge the communication gap.but more importantly..nutrition..is the core of all things. Simple but true. Ask any coach.."coach was is your nutrition regiment for your team...?" The answer will relect his team's progress or status. Does he know if his qb is eating fish or chicken..? How often? Etc..makes a huge difference on the win column.


You mean Stepp is on target that it does take that kind of investment. As he wrote, it isn't trying to find the "right coach" that can turn program(s) around on his own. Hire coaches willing to be trained and then get them the training. You mentioned networking, and it is something Matt also mentioned. A lot of coaches around the state know many of their peers. Those seminars and other activities are a big part of those relationships.

Just my opinion: I think most coaches around the state - while not giving out too much - are willing to share certain ideas with their peers, because they want to see TXHSFB and, most importantly, kids succeed.

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