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Class of 2019 with Division 1 Offers?

Is Parkland Matadors Class of 2019 Deion Hankins the only one out of El Paso, TX with official Division 1 offers? If anyone knows of any others please post them here within this thread.

OFFERS:
Oklahoma State
San Diego State
UTAH
Texas Tech
SMU
UTEP

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Deion-Hankins-100970/RecruitInterests

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Caleb Gerber has had contact from Texas Tech, Baylor, and NMSU.

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Hey GURU Khatib Lyles has serious interests from Division I Programs. Khatib right now has an official truly legit offer from a Division II Program in WNMU which he received last year in the summer of 2017 before his junior season.

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Khatib-Lyles-103503/RecruitInterests

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7401220/5a063bd80dc14125cc811620

******* Khatib transferred to the Parkland Matadors *******



KHATIB LYLES
6'3"
200lbs


2016 Highlights of Khatib when he was a Sophomore



2017 Highlights of Khatib as a Junior 2017

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:video_camera: CHECK OUT KARCH GARDINER'S 2017 HIGHLIGHTS :video_camera:
Karch should have D1 offers in the coming months.

OFOD OFOD OFOD OFOD OFOD OFOD OFOD OFOD OFOD OFOD

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GURU's question was "Is Parkland Matadors Class of 2019 Deion Hankins the only one out of El Paso, TX with official Division 1 offers?"

The answer to GURU's question is

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Lloyd there will be other local players like Khatib Lyles with Division 1 offers soon. It's only a matter of time.

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Yale and Texas Tech has officially offered Lyles.

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epwatch
Yale and Texas Tech has officially offered Lyles.
Are you positive that Khatib Lyles has official D1 offers from Yale and Texas Tech? I can't seem to find online confirmation of this being true.

Rivals.com and 247sports.com does not have Khatib Lyles with any D1 offers listed. All I see on Khatib's twitter are colleges showing interests but no proof of official offers.

https://twitter.com/khatiblyles

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As I stated above it's only a matter of time.

I just read on EP Gridiron's twitter page that Khatib Lyles has a D1 offer from McNeese State University.


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McNeese State University? Since when does McNeese take a look all the way down here in El Paso for talent? Hmmmm what is going on??? I am not complaining or arguing or being a hater only that it's amazing D1 Universities far away from the upper most part of the bible belt are looking at El Paso, Texas for prospects. Interesting!!!

Well that's Khatib's first official D1 offer and I'm sure he will receive others.

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Khatib Lyles just now received another D1 offer. YALE! epwatch above mentioned it yesterday but it was not official and now it is official.

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Khatib Lyles just now received yet another D1 offer. COLUMBIA!

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BeastofNE
As I stated above it's only a matter of time.

I just read on EP Gridiron's twitter page that Khatib Lyles has a D1 offers from McNeese State University, Yale and Columbia.


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Beast nobody wanted to listen to me about the kid.

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That is great about Lyles, but quick question. How do football offers work for Ivy League schools. From my understanding they do not offer academic scholarships. Don’t get me wrong, kid is on path for greater things obviously. Getting attention from Ivy League schools even if for academic purposes is probably more significant than getting noticed for td’s Friday nights. I love my football but Yale, Colombia come on lol.

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Curious
That is great about Lyles, but quick question. How do football offers work for Ivy League schools. From my understanding they do not offer academic scholarships. Don’t get me wrong, kid is on path for greater things obviously. Getting attention from Ivy League schools even if for academic purposes is probably more significant than getting noticed for td’s Friday nights. I love my football but Yale, Colombia come on lol.
My bad, meant to say athletic scholarships.

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Curious the Ivy League "offers" if we can call it that is somewhat complicating just a tad. I will attempt to explain here but someone out there who comes to this message board may add to this and give more accurate information about this Ivy League stuff and help us both get well educated about it.

Here's what I think I know about it. Ivy League Schools do not give out full rides or full scholarships BUT they do give out pretty handsomely financial packages for the students to be or student athletes to be. Financial packages like say for instance the student or student athletes parents or parent makes less than a certain amount annually. I don't know what that annual amount is but it could be upwards to $75,000 I don't know I could be mistaken on this amount may be more or less. So if the parents or the parent earns less than $75,000 they will not have to dig that deep into their pockets or not dig into their pockets at all for any of their money for their kid's Ivy League education BUT if the parents or parent make more than $75,000 annually or a bunch more like say $250,000 annually these high roller parent$ most likely will have to pay between 15% to 20% of their actual earned annual income for their kid's education BUT the Ivy League institution might lower that % just a bit depending on certain factors. So parents or parent earning less than $75,000 will pay a little or next to nothing or nothing at all coming out of their pockets for their kids Ivy League education. Parent or parents earning more than $75,000 and lot$ more will more than likely have to pay $2,000 up to 4,000 annually and to them paying $2,000 up to $4,000 annually to a Ivy League for a solid and prestige, education, and athletics experience is very well worth it to them over full ride offers elsewhere in the country. They will see it as a superfabulicious cheap affordable deal steal no brainer for their kid to get that Ivy League experience.

Ivy League offers add some heavy spice to student and student athletes that receive multiple offers. Because on one hand if a kid has official D1 offers from New Mexico State, UTEP, SMU, Texas Tech, Wyoming, Florida St., Alabama or any other non-Ivy League institutions they have important things to discuss during dinner and decide what move to make. They have Ivy League offers because the student or student athletes have a einstein sort of a head on their shoulders with a solid GPA well parents or parent and their kid might elect to go the Ivy League route to receive that prestige, education, and athletics experience. A lot of people out there consider Ivy Leagues to serve, on a golden platter, the finest education around.

Do Ivy Leagues give out offers the answer is no but they have pretty handsomely financial packages for the students or student athletes to be.

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Congrats to the two players with all those offers. I hope they bring recruiters to El Paso so they see all the talent here. When I watch the state playoffs on TV some high schools had more the 6 players with D1 offers. That's more than all the schools in El Paso and Las Crises put together. I think El Paso and the surrounding area are overlooked by scouts and schools.

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RAM56
Congrats to the two players with all those offers. I hope they bring recruiters to El Paso so they see all the talent here. When I watch the state playoffs on TV some high schools had more the 6 players with D1 offers. That is more than all the schools in El Paso and Las Crises put together. I think El Paso and the surrounding area are overlooked by scouts and schools.
Let's put the State of Texas and just how far El Paso is from its other Texan brethren cities into better perspective.

Just look at the magnitude of the State of Texas and the distance El Paso is from say Dallas and Houston.

El Paso is approximately 750 miles away from its brethren cities Dallas and Houston. Obviously it's a whole lot beneficial, $$$college football program budget wise$$$, for college scouts to recruit an area where cities are closer to each other to see and evaluate more skilled players and most importantly to see and evaluate those skilled players of different race and ethnicity in so many positions. The odds of discovering, in larger quantity, bigger, stronger, faster and more skilled athletes in multiple cities, closer to each other, like Dallas, Houston, Austin, and even San Antonio is a whole lot wiser than traveling all the way to El Paso which is practically located in the State of New Mexico.

If I was a college recruiter I too would focus in that region part of Texas as my budget would go alot further. I would get bigger bang for my buck instead of traveling all the way to El Paso, spending lots of money, to see and evaluate a city that is highly Hispanic populated and not much a variety of other races and ethnicity. It would not be a wise thing to do when considering the budget I may have to work with again if I was a college recruiter.

Chew on this to get a much better perspective. El Paso is approximately 800 miles from San Diego, California just about the same distance of El Paso to Houston.


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Juco
Curious the Ivy League "offers" if we can call it that is somewhat complicating just a tad. I will attempt to explain here but someone out there who comes to this message board may add to this and give more accurate information about this Ivy League stuff and help us both get well educated about it.

Here's what I think I know about it. Ivy League Schools do not give out full rides or full scholarships BUT they do give out pretty handsomely financial packages for the students to be or student athletes to be. Financial packages like say for instance the student or student athletes parents or parent makes less than a certain amount annually. I don't know what that annual amount is but it could be upwards to $75,000 I don't know I could be mistaken on this amount may be more or less. So if the parents or the parent earns less than $75,000 they will not have to dig that deep into their pockets or not dig into their pockets at all for any of their money for their kid's Ivy League education BUT if the parents or parent make more than $75,000 annually or a bunch more like say $250,000 annually these high roller parent$ most likely will have to pay between 15% to 20% of their actual earned annual income for their kid's education BUT the Ivy League institution might lower that % just a bit depending on certain factors. So parents or parent earning less than $75,000 will pay a little or next to nothing or nothing at all coming out of their pockets for their kids Ivy League education. Parent or parents earning more than $75,000 and lot$ more will more than likely have to pay $2,000 up to 4,000 annually and to them paying $2,000 up to $4,000 annually to a Ivy League for a solid and prestige, education, and athletics experience is very well worth it to them over full ride offers elsewhere in the country. They will see it as a superfabulicious cheap affordable deal steal no brainer for their kid to get that Ivy League experience.

Ivy League offers add some heavy spice to student and student athletes that receive multiple offers. Because on one hand if a kid has official D1 offers from New Mexico State, UTEP, SMU, Texas Tech, Wyoming, Florida St., Alabama or any other non-Ivy League institutions they have important things to discuss during dinner and decide what move to make. They have Ivy League offers because the student or student athletes have a einstein sort of a head on their shoulders with a solid GPA well parents or parent and their kid might elect to go the Ivy League route to receive that prestige, education, and athletics experience. A lot of people out there consider Ivy Leagues to serve, on a golden platter, the finest education around.

Do Ivy Leagues give out offers the answer is no but they have pretty handsomely financial packages for the students or student athletes to be.
Thanks for the info,
I am a bit educated as well, but just like yourself can not say I’m 100% sure on some of those details. I knew about the help these institutions provide Families especially if combined income is below 75,000 (not exactly sure if that is amount but we’ll stick to that figure lol). On top of it if the athlete scores higher on college placement testing it just keeps adding up. I believe programs like Duke and Stanford do something similar just wasn’t aware Ivy League programs work in similar fashion. Taking nothing at all from any of our athletes offered D1 full rides, but advise to all other athletes and Fams seeking scholarships. Keep those grades super high and excel in the classroom. I do not know the stats but if only 1% of athletes make it pro, the rest end up with Monday-Friday schedules and by no means am I saying that is not the path to go, but get yourself an education from an Ivy League and you’ll be making more than half of these players that do make it to the pros. On top of it, this career can last you 30+ years and not the 5-7 years or however long the NFL average career lasts. On another topic from other thread; Yes, I cannot wait to see an EP high school win a state championship but maybe that’s why schools are not combined. To have less students per classroom and hopefully our educators can assist more in keeping those grades super high lol...just sayin.

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Just playing the devil’s advocate, but maybe we should start breaking our heads on how we can build “more” schools to have a less student per teacher ratio. This might help our athletes get much higher grades, smaller teams so smaller player per coach ratio. Hate to say it but many of our athletes will fall below these income guidelines so why aren’t we instead starting all kinds of blogs on how to get these Ivy Leagues to look at our athletes lol...just sayin.

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We can dream all we want about the configurations of schools and enrollments, but the bottom line is this:
1. Public Education in Texas has nowhere near the funding for the dream schools or larger schools.
2. Public schools are not in the business of putting sports and its possible championships in front of the main purpose, that of educating our kids.



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Juco you pretty much explained that as perfect as you can get via social site and not speaking directly to a coach of one of those ivy league programs. Bottom line if an athlete chooses to go ivy his or hers tuition will be paid!

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sporty
We can dream all we want about the configurations of schools and enrollments, but the bottom line is this:
1. Public Education in Texas has nowhere near the funding for the dream schools or larger schools.
2. Public schools are not in the business of putting sports and its possible championships in front of the main purpose, that of educating our kids.

sporty you must not be a dreamer. You are a rare breed. You're probably one of those that tells kids not to dream and not to pursue the impossible and to be realistic. Just messing with you sporty don't get all offended. I agree with you but thousands upon thousands of people pursue that main purpose education and they still wind up jobless, broke, lost, among other terrible things. Getting an education is not a guaranteed ticket that one will have a good or great life.

Anyways let us not get off topic.

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Just saw this on EP Gridiron's home page

Deion Hankins of Parkland has offers from
Utah
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
San Diego State
SMU
Utep

Khatib Lyles of Parkland has offers from
McNeese State
Yale
Columbia
Incarnate Word
Kansas

Doesn't take a genius to see and know that a lot of D1 recruiters will be at Parkland games this upcoming season. In my opinion either tell your parents to move to the Parkland area and attend Parkland or if your team is in Parklands district and when you play Parkland play lights out because you never know who might be watching and you might be noticed and offered.

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Qbert
Just saw this on EP Gridiron's home page

Deion Hankins of Parkland has offers from
Utah
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
San Diego State
SMU
Utep

Khatib Lyles of Parkland has offers from
McNeese State
Yale
Columbia
Incarnate Word
Kansas

Doesn't take a genius to see and know that a lot of D1 recruiters will be at Parkland games this upcoming season. In my opinion either tell your parents to move to the Parkland area and attend Parkland or if your team is in Parklands district and when you play Parkland play lights out because you never know who might be watching and you might be noticed and offered.

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GURU
Is Parkland Matadors Class of 2019 Deion Hankins the only one out of El Paso, TX with official Division 1 offers? If anyone knows of any others please post them here within this thread.

OFFERS:
Oklahoma State
San Diego State
UTAH
Texas Tech
SMU
UTEP

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Deion-Hankins-100970/RecruitInterests

GURU you can include Arkansas to that list of offers for Deion.



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Arkansas WOW man that calls for celebration!!!! Let me open some bubbly.

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Lloyd
Arkansas WOW man that calls for celebration!!!! Let me open some bubbly.

Lloyd-U must be in love with Jim Carry

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According to EP Gridiron's main page these are the local El Paso players that have official Division 1 offers

DEION HANKINS Parkland high school
>>>UTAH UTES
>>>TEXAS TECH RED RAIDERS
>>>OKLAHOMA STATE COWBOYS
>>SAN DIEGO STATE AZTECS
>>>SMU MUSTANGS
>>>ARKANSAS RAZORBACKS

KHATIB LYLES Parkland high school
>>>MCNEESE STATE COWBOYS
>>>YALE BULLDOGS
>>>COLUMBIA LIONS
>>>INCARNATE WORD CARDINALS
>>>KANSAS JAYHAWKS
>>>ABILENE CHRISTIAN WILDCATS
>>>DARTMOUTH BIG GREEN

CALEB GERBER Pebble hills high school
>>>AIR FORCE FALCONS

LAMA LAVEA Chapin high school
>>>TEXAS STATE BOBCATS

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Today is a happy day for me and all of OFOD.

Karch Gardiner received an offer from Morehead State Eagles
Raymond Montez received an offer from Morehead State Eagles

https://twitter.com/EP_GRIDIRON/status/981366468649672705

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DV
Today is a happy day for me and all of OFOD.

Karch Gardiner received an offer from Morehead State Eagles
Raymond Montez received an offer from Morehead State Eagles

https://twitter.com/EP_GRIDIRON/status/981366468649672705
Two great players and well deserved !!!! After seeing some of the post of Karch on twitter I'm starting to believe he might be the best wide receiver in El Paso this season...He's got some mad skills and his work ethic is unbelievable !!!! Hopefully this is the start of many for him and montez !!!!!!!! Congrats to both of them !!!!! Thanks for posting the info DV !!!!!!!!!:+1:

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EP Gridiron must have changed the link or something. Here is another EP Gridiron link and also the links on Raymond and Karch.

https://twitter.com/EP_GRIDIRON/status/981414140861435906

https://twitter.com/RMontez_/status/981343231127511041

https://twitter.com/karch__/status/981330049092767746

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These are the local area El Paso players and the D1 offers they have so far.

KHATIB LYLES (Parkland High School)
/// Kansas Jayhawks ~ Big 12 Conference
/// Yale Bulldogs ~ Ivy League
/// Columbia Lions ~ Ivy League
/// Dartmouth Big Green ~ Ivy League
/// Utep Miners ~ Conference USA
/// Incarnate Word Cardinals ~ Southland Conference
/// Abilene Christian Wildcats ~ Southland Conference
/// McNeese State Cowboys ~ Southland Conference
/// Liberty Flames ~ Big South Conference


DEION HANKINS (Parkland High School)
/// Arkansas Razorbacks ~ Southeastern Conference
/// Oklahoma State Cowboys ~ Big 12 Conference
/// Texas Tech Red Raiders ~ Big 12 Conference
/// San Diego State Aztecs ~ Mountain West Conference
/// Utah Utes ~ Pac-12 Conference
/// SMU Mustangs ~ American Athletic Conference
/// Utep Miners ~ Conference USA


KARCH GARDINER (Del Valle High School)
/// Morehead State Eagles ~ Pioneer Football League


RAYMOND MONTEZ (Del Valle High School)
/// Morehead State Eagles ~ Pioneer Football League


CALEB GERBER (Pebble Hills High School)
/// Air Force Falcons ~ Mountain West Conference


LAMA LAVEA (Chapin High School)
/// Texas State Bobcats ~ Sun Belt Conference


I'm a Matador alum and really don't care about other teams during the regular season but man I just love to see local area El Paso players receive offers no matter which high school in El Paso they are from. I see El Paso players receiving offers like during the playoffs when El Paso teams are playing out of town teams I root for El Paso all the way!!!

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BeastofNE
These are the local area El Paso players and the D1 offers they have so far.

KHATIB LYLES (Parkland High School)
/// Kansas Jayhawks ~ Big 12 Conference
/// Yale Bulldogs ~ Ivy League
/// Columbia Lions ~ Ivy League
/// Dartmouth Big Green ~ Ivy League
/// Utep Miners ~ Conference USA
/// Incarnate Word Cardinals ~ Southland Conference
/// Abilene Christian Wildcats ~ Southland Conference
/// McNeese State Cowboys ~ Southland Conference
/// Liberty Flames ~ Big South Conference


DEION HANKINS (Parkland High School)
/// Arkansas Razorbacks ~ Southeastern Conference
/// Oklahoma State Cowboys ~ Big 12 Conference
/// Texas Tech Red Raiders ~ Big 12 Conference
/// San Diego State Aztecs ~ Mountain West Conference
/// Utah Utes ~ Pac-12 Conference
/// SMU Mustangs ~ American Athletic Conference
/// Utep Miners ~ Conference USA


KARCH GARDINER (Del Valle High School)
/// Morehead State Eagles ~ Pioneer Football League


RAYMOND MONTEZ (Del Valle High School)
/// Morehead State Eagles ~ Pioneer Football League


CALEB GERBER (Pebble Hills High School)
/// Air Force Falcons ~ Mountain West Conference


LAMA LAVEA (Chapin High School)
/// Texas State Bobcats ~ Sun Belt Conference


I'm a Matador alum and really don't care about other teams during the regular season but man I just love to see local area El Paso players receive offers no matter which high school in El Paso they are from. I see El Paso players receiving offers like during the playoffs when El Paso teams are playing out of town teams I root for El Paso all the way!!!
That is a beautiful sight to see. Hopefully some others get the calls and made offers to extend that list of D1's.

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Earlier today Khatib Lyles received a offer from /// Air Force Falcons ~ Mountain West Conference

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Khatib another offer NORTH TEXAS

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It's awesome to see these El Paso players getting some well deserved D-1 attention, just wish all players would get some looks from these recruiters. For example where's the love for the Spartan defensive back who held Mr. Lyles to 1 catch for 12 yards with a pick. If I'm not mistaken he was the Spartan #2 CB and he has yet to receive an offer.

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It's awesome to see these El Paso players getting some well deserved D-1 attention, just wish all players would get some looks from these recruiters. For example where's the love for the Spartan defensive back who held Mr. Lyles to 1 catch for 12 yards with a pick. If I'm not mistaken he was the Spartan #2 CB and he has yet to receive an offer.

Unfortunately recruiting doesn't work that way.

I saw lots of players pop and stop Aaron Jones behind the line of scrimmage and none of those players never got looked at or offered.

I've also seen 5'8" defensive players sack 3 to 5 star quarterbacks and those 5'8" players never got looked at or offered but the quarterbacks went on to receive lots of offers.

I can go on and on with this though it's pointless.

The actual true point here is you nor parents or high school coaches are not the college recruiters and college recruiters know what they are looking for and what they want for their program.

Comparing a player to other players and what a player did against a player who has D-1 offers is ridiculous. Every player has good games and bad games. Even your Spartan CB who I've seen get burned and beat by lots of players.

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TheTruth
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It's awesome to see these El Paso players getting some well deserved D-1 attention, just wish all players would get some looks from these recruiters. For example where's the love for the Spartan defensive back who held Mr. Lyles to 1 catch for 12 yards with a pick. If I'm not mistaken he was the Spartan #2 CB and he has yet to receive an offer.

Unfortunately recruiting doesn't work that way.

I saw lots of players pop and stop Aaron Jones behind the line of scrimmage and none of those players never got looked at or offered.

I've also seen 5'8" defensive players sack 3 to 5 star quarterbacks and those 5'8" players never got looked at or offered but the quarterbacks went on to receive lots of offers.

I can go on and on with this though it's pointless.

The actual true point here is you nor parents or high school coaches are not the college recruiters and college recruiters know what they are looking for and what they want for their program.

Comparing a player to other players and what a player did against a player who has D-1 offers is ridiculous. Every player has good games and bad games. Even your Spartan CB who I've seen get burned and beat by lots of players.
I agree with truth about the recruiting. Like me I thought Montwood's wide receiver Tyreese Andrus would have a bunch of division 1 offers by the end of his junior year and a bunch more in his senior year but Tyreese only received one division 1 offer. And I think Tyreese Andrus is 10 times better than Khatib Lyles. Tyreese only 1 offer and Khatib a whole bunch of offers??? Anyways like truth said I'm not a recruiter let's leave the recruiting to the recruiters.

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Tyrese is 10 times better than Lyles and everybody that went to a game last year knows this for fact. I think the only thing these recruiters look at sometimes is their size. Very unfortunate.

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Tyrese is 10 times better than Lyles and everybody that went to a game last year knows this for fact. I think the only thing these recruiters look at sometimes is their size. Very unfortunate.
Size of players plays a big part to recruiting a high school football player for the collegiate level no doubt about that even grandmothers and grandfathers and toddlers have this knowledge but recruiters evaluate a player in so much more than just a players height and weight. I'm no recruiter but I know a truth in that a player's grades matter just as well as a players character and then there is this thing called luck.

Lots of people especially parents put so much emphasis on statistics, all district this and that honors, I still don't understand why people do that. Maybe they do it for bragging rights but recruiters put statistics and all district this and that honors aside when looking to recruit a player. I've seen players here in El Paso and outside of El Paso score zillions of touchdowns and they did not receive offers. I've seen players rack up zillions of yards and zillions of interceptions and zillions of sacks and did not receive single offer.

The truth of the matter is you, I, parents, nor high school coaches are recruiters so stop with the nonsense. Stop the jealousy and be happy for whoever receives a D-1 offer or offers because D-1 offers are hard to come by. D-1 offers are blessings they are like hitting the lottery$$$ and that is the truth.

A conversation of Tyreese Andrus being better than Khatib Lyles is just plain ridiculous. I have a gorgeous cousin that sings better than Katy Perry, Carrie Underwood, Christina Aguilar, Gwen Stefani, and lots of other popular female singers and guess what my cousin is working at Walmart.

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The Truth speaks the truth especially when he says the part about LUCK!!!

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Well said truth

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Man all you non recruiters saying this kid is better than this kid, I didn't see post of Tyreese going to all these camps Khatib goes to. You gotta get outside the footprint of El Paso bottom line, that's for every sport our kids compete in here in EP.

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Pops of 5
Man all you non recruiters saying this kid is better than this kid, I didn't see post of Tyreese going to all these camps Khatib goes to. You gotta get outside the footprint of El Paso bottom line, that's for every sport our kids compete in here in EP.
Camps play a very small tiny role in recruiting.

If you get all student-athletes that participate in every single camp in a single year you will see the truth.

The truth is that there are more student-athletes that do not get noticed from these camps and are not offered than those very small few that do get noticed and offered. The numbers are overwhelming that thousands of student-athletes who participate in camps ended up being a waste of their time and money. Those very small few who were noticed and offered were struck by luck. There's that thing we call luck. Luck plays a huge role in recruiting.

Every single time the recruiting conversation comes about there is always some people who bring up camps. Participating in camps is not a guarantee that you will get noticed and offered a division 1 scholarship.

Camps do help in trying to have lady luck strike upon you though still not a guarantee she will. I know of many student-athletes with out of this world super human phenom skills who participated in lots of camps and never got noticed nor offered 1 single offer.

Do yourself a favor and research a camp any camp I don't care if it's a top notch branded name camp. Get the number of its participants. Then see how many of those participants signed to a division 1 program on signing day. Please do that research and see the truth.

A camp is great to see the other athletes that are out there. This will motivate you, push you, inspire you, to make you a better student-athlete mentally and physically when you return back home and to your high school. It's an eye opener and brings lots of pretend studs back down to earth after seeing real studs.

If you already have division 1 offers before going to a camp or camps it helps somewhat boost your exposure because those who organize and run the camps will be talking about you and spreading the word about you and the offer or offers the student-athlete already possesses. In this case camps do help. Those who organize and run the camps want to toot their own horn in attempt to receive credit as if the camp is what helped the student-athlete receive those division 1 offers.

Aaron Jones participated in camps and he wasn't really noticed and he was not offered after having participated in camps. Utep ended up offering Aaron Jones late in his high school career. Another is Deion Hankins. Deion doesn't participate in hardly any camps and he has crazy offers from huge conferences. I use Aaron Jones and Deion Hankins as examples to show you both sides of the coin. One student-athlete participated in camps and really didn't get noticed and only received one division 1 offer in Aaron Jones and the other not hardly participated in any camps and has been noticed and received lots of division 1 offers from huge conferences in Deion Hankins.

Please stop with the camp nonsense as if it is a guarantee to get student-athletes noticed and division 1 offers.

I repeat do your research. Get the total number of student-athlete participants in camps and then grade those camps at the end of signing day. Do not do this for big name camps like Rivals Elite Camps and Under Armour All America Camps because majority of these student-athletes who participate in these big name camps already have division 1 offers going in.

I wish there was a blog or a social media page for all student-athletes that participated in a camp or camps during their high school careers posting the truth on how they never were noticed and did not receive division 1 offers from participating in camps and also those student-athletes that think they were noticed and offered to share their experience. This will settle all this camp nonsense once and for all.

Re: Class of 2019 with Division 1 Offers?

Great stuff Truth. The truth speaks the absolute truth. My opinion about Camps is this. The high school football players that have been contacted by collegiate division 1 coaches and feel that they have some interest in them then by all means attend camps in the spring and summer for added exposure showing those collegiate coaches who contacted you that you mean business and hope they make you that offer. If those collegiate coaches happen to contact you again and ask you what you have been doing in the spring and summer you have a lot to tell them like that you have been going to camps keeping busy working at improving yourself. If you have their contact information send the collegiate coaches updates on your status as to what you have been up to in the spring and summer. BUTTTTT if you have not received any contact from college coaches at all and you attend camps the odds are against you and don't get your hopes too high. Grind and keep at it and like The Truth said wish upon lady luck to strike that you happen to get that first contact by a collegiate coach showing interest. The Truth mentioned big highly nationally named camps like Rivals Elite 3 strip camps and Under Armour All America. My opinion about those big highly nationally named camps is obviously the players attending these big highly nationally named camps were by invitation only which means these players already have offers going into these big highly nationally named camps reason why they were specially invited and hand picked. If the player is wanting more offers because he still doesn't know which college program to commit to then these big highly nationally named camps will help in maybe getting another offer or a couple of offers because the players are going up against other players that have offers as well and their name and their offers also a video of the player will be listed and posted on Rivals Elite websites and their social media pages and Under Armour All America websites and their social media pages helping in getting more exposure. Collegiate recruiters will flock to these big highly nationally named camps and check out these players on these websites and social media pages because they know all the players have offers. It makes their recruiting job easier so to speak. These big highly nationally named camps are beneficial to attend for those players that already have offers and are looking to possibly get more offers. That's my take on Camps.

Re: Class of 2019 with Division 1 Offers?

Truth and Juco you both make solid points in reference to camps. Good example is Khatib Lyles He is receiving lots of offers and he has been going to lots of camps but he still just has only one Power Five Conference offer Kansas Jayhawks. If camps really were all that as many think and give them credit for then Khatib would have more than one top 5 power conference team offer by now. I am sure a couple of teams from the Power Five Conferences will offer Khatib later but he already went to a lot of camps and he even visited Texas Tech and Texas Tech has not offered him. The point here right this second is that more teams from the Power Five Conferences have not been made to Khatib Lyles by now. Why is this if he has gone to so many camps even popular camps??? So Truth and Juco you guys may be correct about camps.

Deion Hankins on the other hand as you all state has not been going to camps and he has offers from some teams in Power Five Conferences.
BIG 12 ~~~ OKLAHOMA STATE AND TEXAS TECH
PAC 12 ~~~ UTAH
SEC ~~~~~~ ARKANSAS

Re: Class of 2019 with Division 1 Offers?

Westsider
Truth and Juco you both make solid points in reference to camps. Good example is Khatib Lyles He is receiving lots of offers and he has been going to lots of camps but he still just has only one Power Five Conference offer Kansas Jayhawks. If camps really were all that as many think and give them credit for then Khatib would have more than one top 5 power conference team offer by now. I am sure a couple of teams from the Power Five Conferences will offer Khatib later but he already went to a lot of camps and he even visited Texas Tech and Texas Tech has not offered him. The point here right this second is that more teams from the Power Five Conferences have not been made to Khatib Lyles by now. Why is this if he has gone to so many camps even popular camps??? So Truth and Juco you guys may be correct about camps.

Deion Hankins on the other hand as you all state has not been going to camps and he has offers from some teams in Power Five Conferences.
BIG 12 ~~~ OKLAHOMA STATE AND TEXAS TECH
PAC 12 ~~~ UTAH
SEC ~~~~~~ ARKANSAS
Trust me westsider, when Khatib Lyles play for parkland in that district, his stats as a receiver will be insane..... So you add stats along with his sizes, Power 5 is going come knocking....

Re: Class of 2019 with Division 1 Offers?

ALPHAWOLF
Westsider
Truth and Juco you both make solid points in reference to camps. Good example is Khatib Lyles He is receiving lots of offers and he has been going to lots of camps but he still just has only one Power Five Conference offer Kansas Jayhawks. If camps really were all that as many think and give them credit for then Khatib would have more than one top 5 power conference team offer by now. I am sure a couple of teams from the Power Five Conferences will offer Khatib later but he already went to a lot of camps and he even visited Texas Tech and Texas Tech has not offered him. The point here right this second is that more teams from the Power Five Conferences have not been made to Khatib Lyles by now. Why is this if he has gone to so many camps even popular camps??? So Truth and Juco you guys may be correct about camps.

Deion Hankins on the other hand as you all state has not been going to camps and he has offers from some teams in Power Five Conferences.
BIG 12 ~~~ OKLAHOMA STATE AND TEXAS TECH
PAC 12 ~~~ UTAH
SEC ~~~~~~ ARKANSAS
Trust me westsider, when Khatib Lyles play for parkland in that district, his stats as a receiver will be insane..... So you add stats along with his sizes, Power 5 is going come knocking....
I know that and my cat knows that but what people are talking about there is the Camp stuff. People put so much fame and fortune on Camps as if they are a sure thing when looking to get offers when that is far from true. I used Khatib as a example here because he has been going to a lot of camps and he hasn't received lots of offers from teams in any of the Power 5 conferences except Kansas. I'm not knocking on Khatib in any way. I'm referring to Camps here just as everyone else has we are just using players as examples to talk about Camps. I will say again Deion hasn't been going to camps and he has offers from some teams in Power 5 conferences.

Again this is a Camp thing not about Khatib or any player. Me and my cat would like to see Khatib and other players get offers from Power 5 conferences.

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